[Openid-specs-ab] [E] Re: SIOP Idea Exchange Meeting

Tom Jones thomasclinganjones at gmail.com
Sat Jun 13 22:47:25 UTC 2020


Correct

thx ..Tom (mobile)

On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 2:45 PM Tobias Looker <tobias.looker at mattr.global>
wrote:

> I'm not sure I understand your comment. Are you asking if the end-user
> assertion returned by the flow we have proposed in the draft is any
> different to a VC?
>
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> On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 3:08 PM Tom Jones <thomasclinganjones at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Is it different from a vc?
>> Peace ..tom
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 5:25 PM Tobias Looker <tobias.looker at mattr.global>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Claims Provider, essentially an OpenID Provider but it has a different
>>> term in the context of SIOP.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
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>>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 10:28 AM Tom Jones <thomasclinganjones at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What's a CP
>>>>
>>>> thx ..Tom (mobile)
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020, 3:25 PM Tobias Looker via Openid-specs-ab <
>>>> openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not directly on a SIOP implementation but more on topics like how do
>>>>> we formalize the binding mechanism for the claims that are returned from
>>>>> the CP to the SIOP so that a presentation of claims back to a RP can be
>>>>> properly authenticated. I believe it has already been mentioned on this
>>>>> thread but something like the approach we have documented here
>>>>> https://mattrglobal.github.io/oidc-client-bound-assertions-spec/.
>>>>>
>>>>> R.e recording thanks, we will be sure to watch it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
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>>>>> *Tobias Looker*
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 3:10 AM Nat Sakimura <nat at nat.consulting>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand. NZ and AU always take the hit. Do you have a
>>>>>> presentation? Then I can do a pre-recoding of it and present it to the
>>>>>> participants.
>>>>>> The session will be recorded so you can watch it later as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:18 AM Tobias Looker
>>>>>> <tobias.looker at mattr.global> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This time does not really work for us located in NZ so if
>>>>>>> another time is available that would be great, however we appreciate that
>>>>>>> if it is a globally attended meeting that may not be possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
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>>>>>>> *Tobias Looker*
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 3:51 AM Nat Sakimura via Openid-specs-ab <
>>>>>>> openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, I have 27 people wanting to join the meeting, out of which, 8
>>>>>>>> of them actually have SIOP implementation.
>>>>>>>> Timezone-wise, it is spread all-over. So, I would suggest ISO
>>>>>>>> recommended time for the call: 2 PM UTC.
>>>>>>>> That actually falls into AB/Connect Atlantic call time that happens
>>>>>>>> only once in two weeks. So, I tend to suggest 14:00 UTC on June 25, which
>>>>>>>> is the day that AB/Connect WG has no call.
>>>>>>>> Please speak up if it does not work for you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nat Sakimura
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 8:04 AM Nat Sakimura <nat at nat.consulting>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fixed. Now it should work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 6:07 AM Tom Jones via Openid-specs-ab <
>>>>>>>>> openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I clicked yes - as i have an Self-issued solution over OIDC. Note
>>>>>>>>>> that i have not yet posted it to an app store, just so there is no
>>>>>>>>>> confusion.
>>>>>>>>>> Peace ..tom
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 12:45 PM Nat Sakimura via Openid-specs-ab <
>>>>>>>>>> openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Implemented it, so please update the submission.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 2:36 AM Hjelm, Bjorn via Openid-specs-ab <
>>>>>>>>>>> openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> BR,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bjorn
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 1:58 AM Torsten Lodderstedt via
>>>>>>>>>>>> Openid-specs-ab <openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 05.06.2020 um 09:54 schrieb Roland Hedberg <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> roland at catalogix.se>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, perhaps the registration page could contain a checkbox
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for has/has not a SIOP implementation ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 Jun 2020, at 09:08, Torsten Lodderstedt via
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Openid-specs-ab <openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I registered even though I don’t have a SIOP implementation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m interested in interoperability with such implementations, especially
>>>>>>>>>>>>> those leveraging SSI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 05.06.2020 um 07:24 schrieb Pawel Kowalik via
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Openid-specs-ab <openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same here. I would also like to learn more about SIOP but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don’t have any own implementation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would the event be open?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pawel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Openid-specs-ab [
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:openid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <openid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net>] *On Behalf Of *Roland
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hedberg via Openid-specs-ab
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 04 June 2020 21:11
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Artifact Binding/Connect Working Group <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Roland Hedberg <roland at catalogix.se>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Openid-specs-ab] SIOP Idea Exchange Meeting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Me too !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3 Jun 2020, at 17:15, George Fletcher via Openid-specs-ab <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm also interested in the discussion but don't have an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/3/20 6:41 AM, Naohiro Fujie via Openid-specs-ab wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Nat,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this opportunity limited to entities which have their own SIOP product
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or services now?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have my own now but I'm now involved in a PoC project using an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DID-based identity wallet. So I'd like to learn about the situation around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> SIOP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Naohiro
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2020年6月3日(水) 18:26 Nat Sakimura via Openid-specs-ab <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kim and I had a chat yesterday and agreed that it would be a good idea if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we can come together in a virtual meeting to demo and tell about their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects and the difficulties and issues they are running into. I suspect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that there are at least a few implementations that are working on SIOP. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> depends on how many implementations come together but I am initially aiming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at two hours meeting in which each project can spend 10 to 15 minutes. I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hoping that we can meet in two or three weeks time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want to get on board, please fill in the following form.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://forms.gle/HEyHGQHcxU6xmXxUA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, feel free to forward this email.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nat Sakimura
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> NAT.Consulting LLC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> NAT.Consulting LLC
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> NAT.Consulting LLC
>>>>>>
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