[Openid-specs-ab] FW: Read out form the Federation & Browser Workshop

vittorio.bertocci at auth0.com vittorio.bertocci at auth0.com
Thu May 27 15:13:12 UTC 2021

Hi everyone,

Please find this message from Heather about the browsers-federated identity workshop she ran in the last 2 days.

It was really, really interesting.  Would encourage everyone to read the notes.


Hello all,

I saw several of you were able to attend the Federation & Browsers workshop this earlier this week. Thank you for taking the time! For those of you who were unable to make it, here’s a quick recap.

tl;dr - a new W3C community group is forming to focus specifically on federated identity on the web. I am working on the charter with a handful of others, and hope to have our first call within the next 3-4 weeks.

The first day of the workshop was primarily presentations from browser vendors (Google, Microsoft, and Mozilla, with some short comments by Apple) and large IdPs (Google, Microsoft, Facebook). People were able to submit questions and vote on them to direct where we took day 2.

Day 2 was all about discussion, kicking of with a discussion on whether we all agreed to these two statements:

*	Non-transparent, uncontrollable tracking of users across the web needs to be addressed and prevented.
*	Federated login and tracking tools use the same primitives and are indistinguishable from non-transparent, uncontrollable tracking from the browser’s perspective; browser’s proposed mitigations for tracking will impact federated identity. 

(Result: General agreement, but with significant uncertainty about the specifics.)

We wrapped up with a discussion about how to keep the conversation moving, and the group agreed to the formation of a W3C community group specifically focused on federated identity on the web. If and when a broader identity community group is formed (which would cover additional topics such as Decentralized Identifiers), then the federated identity CG would be considered a sub-group of the more general one. 

I’m in the process of converting the notes to markdown format; their final location will be here:

 <https://github.com/WICG/WebID/tree/main/meetings/2021> https://github.com/WICG/WebID/tree/main/meetings/2021

You can already find some of the slides from presenters in that repository.

If you want an early look at the notes, they were taken in Google docs:

Day one:  <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16wj6UnlaePCE0sdVfkVSwoBMHuFphLuv2sptxdQgayE/edit> https://docs.google.com/document/d/16wj6UnlaePCE0sdVfkVSwoBMHuFphLuv2sptxdQgayE/edit 

Day two: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nZt-bU-9FeoaavSuB6KPC7d3vyKuOhnA5QAd8kTN0z0/edit


Heather Flanagan — Translator of Geek to Human
 <https://sphericalcowconsulting.com> https://sphericalcowconsulting.com

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