[Openid-specs-ab] Agenda - OIDF Browser Interactions Special Topic Call - 6/2/21 19:05 UTC

Tim Cappalli Tim.Cappalli at microsoft.com
Tue Jun 1 18:13:40 UTC 2021

Not sure I follow this statement:
“Since we no longer have agendas in advance, it is hard to know what will actually happen in any given session.”

since you replied to the agenda that was sent in advance of the call….

Are you requesting an agenda item for tomorrow?


From: Openid-specs-ab <openid-specs-ab-bounces at lists.openid.net> on behalf of Tom Jones via Openid-specs-ab <openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net>
Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 13:24
To: Artifact Binding/Connect Working Group <openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net>
Cc: thomasclinganjones <thomasclinganjones at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Openid-specs-ab] Agenda - OIDF Browser Interactions Special Topic Call - 6/2/21 19:05 UTC
This federation work may be doing work useful to large companies that make billions of dollars on SSO, it is not addressing the core problem. We cannot transit a user from an RP to a user wallet and back again in a browser session. There do seem to be a few participants that think the RPs are the key to success, but they act like user preference is not important. It is my opinion that the success of OpenID Connect was primarily the ease of use.  The user's liked it. It solved a problem for the users. It was easy for the users.

Interestingly, the SIOP work group has wandered away from solving the core problem as well. The only guy that seems to be addressing the problem is DW in his three current issues. But I am afraid those will be lost in the noise. In any case he is trying to fix a set of approved work items which are fundamentally broken in the user sense articulated above. I consider that to be an impossible task.

Since we no longer have agendas in advance, it is hard to know what will actually happen in any given session. Perhaps we can break off a small group that addresses just the core problem?

Be the change you want to see in the world ..tom

On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 9:05 AM Tim Cappalli via Openid-specs-ab <openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net<mailto:openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net>> wrote:
Hi all,
Here's the agenda for tomorrow<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbitbucket.org%2Fopenid%2Fconnect%2Fwiki%2FBrowser%2520Interactions%2520Special%2520Topics%2520Call%2520-%252020210602&data=04%7C01%7Ctim.cappalli%40microsoft.com%7Ce4fc32bb30a5408ddece08d925222111%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637581650798766244%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=%2FDg7SRiFExpUOHFXl95oq9WA9fsptf9grqVn1wuYets%3D&reserved=0>. Please let me know if you'd like to add anything ahead of time.

* Intros, reintros, agenda bash
* Recap federation workshop
* Role of the browser (discussion)
* W3C Federated Identity WG discussion ([Charter work](https://github.com/hlflanagan/fedidcg<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fhlflanagan%2Ffedidcg&data=04%7C01%7Ctim.cappalli%40microsoft.com%7Ce4fc32bb30a5408ddece08d925222111%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637581650798766244%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=UauC%2BfZXQ1DL5y6iaE9yZil3UG4B6bt1XMymP2ocqzk%3D&reserved=0>))
* Review Front-Channel Logout Use Case https://github.com/IDBrowserUseCases/docs/pull/23<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FIDBrowserUseCases%2Fdocs%2Fpull%2F23&data=04%7C01%7Ctim.cappalli%40microsoft.com%7Ce4fc32bb30a5408ddece08d925222111%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637581650798776203%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=jM%2BS6ecqAHYZuRMJS02vUoGsxkXCK0Zage%2FNPvknITc%3D&reserved=0>
* Topics for next call
* Open Discussion


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