[Openid-specs-ab] user consent

Tim Cappalli Tim.Cappalli at microsoft.com
Thu Apr 8 17:57:54 UTC 2021

Not sure I understand how that disagrees with what I said.

>> The wallet and/or holder governs which claims are disclosed in the VP/VC.
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well that's definitely a point of major disagreement then. If the rp asks the wallet for some details in a pe, the wallet MUST NOT respond to the request without user consent.

Be the change you want to see in the world ..tom

On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 10:43 AM Tim Cappalli <Tim.Cappalli at microsoft.com<mailto:Tim.Cappalli at microsoft.com>> wrote:
The wallet and/or holder governs which claims are disclosed in the VP/VC. I don't see why any consent would apply at the ID token layer when carrying a VP.
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Subject: [Openid-specs-ab] user consent

Before we talk any more about opaque blobs being added to the id token, I would like to talk about user consent. What little i have heard from the PE group the RP gets to ask for whatever info he wants and consent magically happens at some other level. Since the creds group of DIF is not discussing the problem I guess it must come up here. If the request/response of the VC/VP protocol is not known to the open id protocol, how can anybody know if the user has given informed consent to the release of the claims? As far as I can tell DIF is punting the issue altogether. (That comes from Daniel @ MSFT)

First - in SIOP user explicit consent MUST be obtained.
Second - in SIOP the data request from the RP (claims) must be presented to the user in a form they can understand before the id token (etc.) is created.

When we understand that we can talk about vc-xyz.

Be the change you want to see in the world ..tom
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