[Marketing] Revamping the Website
Recordon, David
drecordon at verisign.com
Sun Jul 8 19:56:33 UTC 2007
Hey Thomas,
I fully agree, I think it would be a great thing to have.
As we already have hosting donated by the Oregon State University's Open Source labs, it would be easy to host it there so you wouldn't have to deal with bandwidth or anything.
I think if the theme can be similar, though slightly different that would be best....though I'm certainly not a designer. J
--David
From: marketing-bounces at openid.net [mailto:marketing-bounces at openid.net] On Behalf Of Thomas Huhn (Solution Media)
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 12:27 PM
To: OpenID marketing
Cc: Carsten Pötter
Subject: Re: [Marketing] Revamping the Website
Hey David,
Carsten posted the idea of a marketing effort similar to "Spread Firefox" on his blog and I immidiately picked up the idea. I thought it would be good to have a foot in the door in case there was any interest from the community and not to see this valueable domain in the wrong hands.
That´s why I registered spreadopenid.org with my company Solution Media. In case others agree with our idea, it´s self-evident that I will donate this domain to the foundation.
I would also be willing to host this site. Carsten and me are thinking of running it on wordpress anyway and as soon as there´s a OpenID theme available, we would be more than happy to use it.
-Thomas
2007/7/8, Recordon, David <drecordon at verisign.com>:
Hey Thomas,
I don't think there is disagreement with you and Carsten in principal; I mean http://iwantmyopenid.org was meant to do bits of this. I'd have no problem keeping http://openid.net developer focused with clear links to http://spreadopenid.org for end users. In fact, I really would have liked to have openid.com or openid.org to do this with.
If others agree, then I think this makes a lot of sense and we should take this into account from both design and content perspectives so that the sites share a visual feel and the content is appropriately split between them.
Would you and Carsten be willing to donate the domain spreadopenid.org to the Foundation if this were to happen?
Thanks,
--David
From: marketing-bounces at openid.net [mailto: marketing-bounces at openid.net <mailto:marketing-bounces at openid.net> ] On Behalf Of Thomas Huhn (Solution Media)
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 11:23 AM
To: marketing at openid.net
Cc: Carsten Pötter
Subject: Re: [Marketing] Revamping the Website
Hi David, hi Simon, hi marketers,
we´re glad you´re coming up with this topic and we absolutely agree with both of you. We´re thinking about the same things now for a while but we would like to propose a different solution to you - let me explain why:
The number of OpenID users - as well as the number of IdP's and RP's -
is growing quickly and some people even envisage OpenID becoming the
standard SSO system rather soon. However many people still don't know
that they have an OpenID (e.g. AOL users) already and there are also
people - even tech savvy ones - who want to test OpenID but have
problems finding an IdP (e.g.
http://www.bomega.com/2007/06/10/openid-not-for-me and
http://franticindustries.com/blog/2007/05/15/advice-to-openid-give-me-a-signup-button/ )
and eventually give in or even dismiss OpenID.
While the OpenID community is providing a lot of information to developers ( openid.net <http://openid.net/> ,
openidenabled.com <http://openidenabled.com/> ) end users have not been targeted well enough ( e.g. a
very comprehensive list of IdP's is hidden in the openid.net <http://openid.net/> wiki).
Though they are critical to OpenID's success. Nothing is accomplished if
there are 63 million AOL users who don't know about their OpenID, what
it is and where they can use it.
We - Thomas Huhn ( http://openiddirectory.com <http://openiddirectory.com/> ) and Carsten Pötter ( http://notsorelevant.com <http://notsorelevant.com/> ) -
think this situation has to change. We would like to provide a non-profit site named Spread OpenID ( http://spreadopenid.org <http://spreadopenid.org/> ) -
which will help users finding relevant information about OpenID. This site should be solely focused on end users and
would give us the chance to keep any technical or developer information totally separated on openid.net <http://openid.net/> and openidenabled.com <http://openidenabled.com/> .
We talked about a concept for such a site and this is the first proposal that we want to come up with:
- making things easy to understand: explaining OpenID (benefits and simple step-by-step howto with screenshots)
- talking about peoples concerns: all known pros and cons/problems (phishing, privacy, ...)
- explaining the buzzwords: SREG, IdP, RP, delegation,...
- helping with the users decicion: IdP comparison chart containing
- list of links
- security features
- privacy
- IdP's by country: mentioning country specific privacy conditions
- info about providers (are they trustworthy?)
- compatibility (OpenID 1.1, SREG, OpenID 2.0 (whenever that is))
- additional features (identity management, reputation building, browser integration (just think of providers like claimid, opinity.com <http://opinity.com/> , sxipper))
Since OpenID is international we would like to provide information in as
many languages as possible. In a first step all information will be English,
of course (maybe a native speaker could proofread basic articles before
publishing them); we hope to find people translating basic articles to
Russian, Chinese, Polish, French, German (we can do that ourselves, I
guess), Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Korean, and Japanese. We would
also like to provide a resource hosting constant press releases for journalists
and bloggers who want to write about OpenID. Those people could be a target for press releases by email
about big news in the community as well.
Other ideas include a
- Spread OpenID button for implementation on websites (this sounds much like Spread Firefox, doesn't it? ;)),
- user based voting on "we want XYZ to be OpenID enabled", and
- maybe even establishing a task force which will help RP's implementing OpenID.
We are aware that the OpenID Foundation has started a marketing group already and that there is a
European branch as well. We don't want to compete with any of those
initiatives, but we want to be pro-active on a field we see an urgent need for action.
We would like to know if you share our opinion that a project like Spread OpenID will be beneficial to the community.
And if you think it is, we would like to have your support for using the name "Spread OpenID" and the OpenID logo,
because the spreadopenid.org <http://spreadopenid.org/> site will have an "official character" and makes no sense without a 100% support from the community.
To make it clear: We don't want to start a project without that support.
We appreciate any proposals and are looking forward for your feedback.
Carsten & Thomas
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