[legal] Questions about OpenID Europe Trademark Policy

Snorri snorri at snorri.eu
Mon Mar 10 08:36:38 UTC 2008


+1

Often the lawyers don’t understand the definition of ”Open Source” and how
work this world! ;-)

 

De : legal-bounces at openid.net [mailto:legal-bounces at openid.net] De la part
de Bill Washburn
Envoyé : lundi 10 mars 2008 08:24
À : Drummond Reed; Mike Jones; Raj Mata; Martin Atkins; legal at openid.net
Objet : Re: [legal] Questions about OpenID Europe Trademark Policy

 

+1 
Thanks everyone for these strong, helpful comments.  While it is certain
that the guidance of an attorney(ies) is entirely necessary, it is not
always the case that lawyers are in the best position to give the most
judicious advice on how to formulate well balanced policies and guidelines
that both well protect a trademark and support extensive appropriate use.
Hence there is real value to be found, it seems to me, in having a TM
committee that includes OpenID community members with many diverse
perspectives.

cheers,
-bill

----- Original Message ----
From: Drummond Reed <drummond.reed at cordance.net>
To: Mike Jones <Michael.Jones at microsoft.com>; Raj Mata
<rajmata at yahoo-inc.com>; Martin Atkins <mart at degeneration.co.uk>;
legal at openid.net
Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2008 11:35:58 PM
Subject: Re: [legal] Questions about OpenID Europe Trademark Policy

+1.

=Drummond 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: legal-bounces at openid.net [mailto:legal-bounces at openid.net] On Behalf
> Of Mike Jones
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 1:13 PM
> To: Raj Mata; Martin Atkins; legal at openid.net
> Subject: Re: [legal] Questions about OpenID Europe Trademark Policy
> 
> Agreed.  What trademark work I've been involved with in the past has
> taught me that unless there's clear criteria for what is and isn't
> conforming usage for the mark, the mark is meaningless.
> 
> Criteria such as "must be used in contexts that promote OpenID and/or
> indicate that a site is using approved or implementer's draft OpenID
> specifications" make sense to me.  My wording is terrible, but you get the
> point and the wording can be fixed. :-)
> 
>                                Cheers,
>                                -- Mike
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: legal-bounces at openid.net [mailto:legal-bounces at openid.net] On Behalf
> Of Raj Mata
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 1:06 PM
> To: Martin Atkins; legal at openid.net
> Subject: Re: [legal] Questions about OpenID Europe Trademark Policy
> 
> +1!!
> 
> Totally agree, the objective should be to provide users a clear and
> consistent expectation when they see an OpenID trademark on the web, so
> that we can enhance the value and adoption of OpenID in the marketplace!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Raj
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: legal-bounces at openid.net [mailto:legal-bounces at openid.net] On
> Behalf Of Martin Atkins
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 4:33 AM
> To: legal at openid.net
> Subject: Re: [legal] Questions about OpenID Europe Trademark Policy
> 
> Hans Granqvist wrote:
> >> There has been a lot of conversation about the use of the TM symbol,
> all
> >> lawyers explain that it is important to write it... to avoid in the
> future
> >> OpenID become a word like "kleenex", "email"...
> >
> > But... Don't you *want* that to happen?
> >
> > "Nobody should own this. Nobody's planning on making any money from
> this."
> > and all that, you know.
> >
> 
> Presumably the concern is that other non-OpenID but identity-related
> things could become known as "OpenID" as well. Other examples include
> people calling Atom "RSS", and calling Pepsi "Coke".
> 
> The goal is to protect the trademark to avoid confusion in the
> marketplace, not as a source of income.
> 
> (At least, that *should* be the goal! I don't speak for OpenID Europe.)
> 
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