[legal] Copyright status of OpenID Specs text itself

[David Recordon]

Hey Nat,
I'll look into it, but we'll also need to ask all of the contributor's  
if this is alright.

--David

On Apr 12, 2008, at 5:05 AM, Nat Sakimura wrote:

> If that is the case, I am fine with either XMPP license or GFDL  
> without cover pages, etc.
> For the time being, I am asking the translaters to assume GFDL, but  
> since there are only 5 or 6 involved yet, I could convert it to XMPP  
> as well, though I would have to find a Japanese version of XMPP :-)  
> [I am right now using modified GFDL created by Wikimedia foundation.]
>
> My only request would be OIDF to add the license statement to the  
> specs etc. quickly so that it will be in time for our target finish  
> date for the first batch of the translations, which is April 24.
>
> Nat
>
> On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Simon Josefsson  
> <simon at josefsson.org> wrote:
> "Nat Sakimura" <sakimura at gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Yes indeed. I suppose we need to make them freely available. XMPP  
> Style
> > permission is nice and liberal but I am not sure of the  
> implication when it
> > is applied to a translation project on wiki, since it looks it is  
> possible
> > to make a partial translation of it and control it under the  
> translator's
> > exclusive copyright. In case of GFDL it does not happen, because  
> derivative
> > work is also covered by GFDL.
>
> As far as I can tell, the XMPP license requires you to retain the
> copyright notice and the license in all derivative works, so I don't
> believe that is a big problem.  Translations could be licensed under
> some other license, as long as the requirements in the XMPP license  
> are
> also fulfilled, but I don't see that as a problem.
>
> Using the GFDL would be fine by me though.  Just make sure you don't  
> add
> any invariant sections, or it won't be considered free from Debian's
> point of view.
>
> /Simon
>
> > What would you think?
> >
> > Nat Sakimura (=nat)
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Simon Josefsson <simon at josefsson.org 
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> "Brian E. Lewis" <brian.lewis at cordance.net> writes:
> >>
> >> > As I understand it, you are only seeking to translate the specs  
> and
> >> related
> >> > documents.  To my mind, this would be a significant benefit,  
> and the
> >> GFDL
> >> > would be ideal.  Unfortunately, we did not put that language in  
> the
> >> > documents.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > We can either see about getting you permission or amending the  
> documents
> >> to
> >> > include appropriate GFDL language.
> >>
> >> Placing the documents under a free license would be useful, so  
> consider
> >> this a +1 from me.
> >>
> >> If the documents are not freely licensed, they cannot be included  
> as
> >> documentation in many free software projects.  That would be
> >> unfortunate.
> >>
> >> FYI, compare with the license used by the XMPP Standards  
> Foundation:
> >>
> >> http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/ipr-policy.shtml#legal
> >>
> >> That license was chosen after discussing with the community about
> >> licensing.
> >>
> >> /Simon
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Brian E. Lewis, General Counsel
> >> >
> >> > =bike ( <http://xri.net/=bike> http://xri.net/=bike)
> >> >
> >> > Ph. 206.774.9820
> >> >
> >> > Cel. 206.910.6574
> >> >
> >> > Fax 206.407.3295
> >> >
> >> >  <mailto:brian.lewis at cordance.net> brian.lewis at cordance.net
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> > From: legal-bounces at openid.net [mailto:legal- 
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> >> > Of Nat Sakimura
> >> > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 3:40 AM
> >> > To: legal at openid.net
> >> > Subject: [legal] Copyright status of OpenID Specs text itself
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hello.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I am running a translation project of OpenID Specs and IPR  
> documents.
> >> >
> >> > To work on these document, I wanted to know what is the  
> copyright status
> >> of
> >> > those document.
> >> >
> >> > Are they GFDL or something?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Nat Sakimura (=nat)
> >> > http://www.sakimura.org/en/
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