[legal] Meeting Notes from June 5th

Gabe Wachob gabe.wachob at amsoft.net
Fri Jun 15 16:36:22 UTC 2007


I'm not sure why we care about GPL compatibility. This is a spec, not
software and the spec is never going to be part of another project or used
by another project, except by reference, as far as I can figure. I'm not
sure why software licenses are being discussed here at all, to be honest.
Can you describe what the thinking is here? 

I agree that preserving flexibility for submission to IETF is probably


> -----Original Message-----
> From: legal-bounces at openid.net [mailto:legal-bounces at openid.net] On Behalf
> Of Simon Josefsson
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 7:31 AM
> To: Recordon, David
> Cc: legal at openid.net
> Subject: Re: [legal] Meeting Notes from June 5th
> Hi!  I reviewed the copyright aspect of the policy, and it looks good
> generally.  The only thing I can suggest that you could spend time
> thinking more closely about is:
> * Exactly which license are you going to use. A 'Creative Commons'
> style license may imply restrictions for commercial use, which I
> believe would be unfortunate.  There is also a problem with the CC-*
> licenses that it may not be compatible with GPL and other free
> software licenses, I believe Debian may consider CC-* as non-free.
> I humbly suggest that you triple-license the standard under the CC-
> BY, the GPL, and the revised BSD license.  If you want brevity, you
> could quad-license it, with the fourth license being the following
> brief license (the GNU project recommends this for certain works):
> Copying and distribution of this file, with or without modification,
> are permitted in any medium without royalty provided the copyright
> notice and this notice are preserved.
> * Be aware that the IETF copyright rules by default forbid external
> copyright notices.  Copyright notices are required to be present on
> all copies according to most (if not all) free licenses (including
> CC).  If the IAB is queried, the IETF may make an exception (although
> they have refused to make exceptions in the past).  This means that
> you'll have to ask the IAB to make an exception for adding the
> copyright notices for each OpenID specification contributor if the
> OpenID specification is ever offered to the IETF.
> Alternatively, and perhaps easier, is to require that OpenID
> contributors license their contribution under a dual-license of
> (e.g.) CC-BY (and/or all of the above licenses too) _and_ a license
> that allows the work to be submitted into the IETF.
> Thanks,
> Simon
> On 15 jun 2007, at 15.39, Recordon, David wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > On June 5th we hosted a meeting to continue the review of the IPR
> > Policy
> > proposal.  Notes from this meeting can be found at
> > http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/IPR_Policy_Meeting_June_5.
> >
> > The next step will be drafting a second version of this policy and
> > continuing the feedback process with an even wider group of the
> > community.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --David
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