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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>No worries. It’s the crisis of my own ignorance – a turn of
phrase. I’m the Chief Architect of Corillian – we were involved in the
MSFT press release as we have CardSpace integration for our finance server, and
I’m trying to understand the identity ecosystem so that we can effectively
support any “Identity 2.0” technology, all identity selectors, etc. Just as I
was getting my head around the players, I missed Higgins, that’s all.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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I’m also giving a talk at the SAO (<a href="http://www.sao.org">www.sao.org</a>)
tomorrow along with Scott from Jan Rain and I want to make I grok as much as
possible to as to present reality clearly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Scott Hanselman<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Paul Trevithick
[mailto:paul@socialphysics.org] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 15, 2007 1:02 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Scott Hanselman<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Dick Hardt'; general@openid.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [OpenID] Higgens<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua","serif";
color:blue'>Scott,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua","serif";
color:blue'>Higgins is not an IBM project. It’s owned by the community of committers
most of whom do not work for IBM (nor Eclipse!). The Eclipse Foundation is just
like Apache or Mozilla. Anyone can propose a project and host the project
there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua","serif";
color:blue'>FWIW, I think bridging the OpenID, CardSpace, etc. islands, adding
more direct user control over their data, enhancing privacy, working with the
policy community (e.g. at Berkman) on privacy, etc. is reasonably “far
reaching.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua","serif";
color:blue'>What “crisis” did you have in mind?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua","serif";
color:blue'>-Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
general-bounces@openid.net [mailto:general-bounces@openid.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott
Hanselman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 15, 2007 3:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dick Hardt; general@openid.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenID] Higgens</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Ah, is that all? Heh. Crisis averted. Thanks. I guess I figured
since it was IBM and Eclipse that it’d be more complex and far-reaching.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Scott<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.computerzen.com">www.computerzen.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Dick Hardt [mailto:dick@sxip.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Scott Hanselman<br>
<b>Cc:</b> general@openid.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenID] Higgens<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Higgins is a InfoCard selector and has plans on speaking
OpenID.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>-- Dick<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On 14-Feb-07, at 11:38 PM, Scott Hanselman wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Can
someone explain to me how Higgins[1] fits into the OpenID/CardSpace/Identity
2.0 ecosystem? I can see how OpenID/CardSpace neatly help each other, but
Higgins seems like a “me too” and I’m sure I’m missing something.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>[1]
<a href="http://www.eclipse.org/higgins">http://www.eclipse.org/higgins</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Scott
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