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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Joaquin, yes, both URLs are valid HXRIs,
and both contain the same valid XRI in XRI-normal form, which is &#8220;=joaquin&#8221;.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Each also identifies an HXRI proxy
resolution service &#8211; in the first case, xri.ru, and in the second case,
xri.joaquin.net. To be highly precise, the HXRI proxy resolution service would
be the CGI at each of these webservers that processes URL paths that begin with
=, @, !, +, or $. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Such a service has a specific type,
identified by the XRI &#8220;xri://$res*proxy*($v*2.0)&#8221;, as explained in the
Proxy Resolution section of XRI Resolution 2.0 Working Draft 10 (<a
href="http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/17293">http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/17293</a>).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>=Drummond <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> general-bounces@openid.net
[mailto:general-bounces@openid.net] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Joaquin Miller<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, January 05, 2007
1:14 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OpenID general list<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [OpenID] Dumb
Question: Why isn't http://xri.net/=bobwyman an OpenID?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thanks, Drummond.&nbsp; <br>
<br>
Just so everyone is on the same page, for each of the two URLs below:<br>
&nbsp; is it equivalent to some i-name?<br>
&nbsp; if so, which i-name?<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://xri.ru/=joaquin" eudora=autourl>http://xri.ru/=joaquin<br>
</a>&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://xri.joaquin.net/=joaquin" eudora=autourl>http://xri.joaquin.net/=joaquin</a>
<br>
<br>
(Let's first assume that each identifies a HXRI proxy resolution service.&nbsp;
Then, if relevant, the case when they don't.)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Joaquin, sorry, it was getting very late
last night, so I didn&#18;t put in the full rule, which appears on the XRI TC
wiki page on XRI Syntax 2.1, specifically:<br>
&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a
href="http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xri/XriCd02/Xri2dot1Formats#head-53d6e9e25a1fc09b79a3e624f2618f7c5d54ba69">http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xri/XriCd02/Xri2dot1Formats#head-53d6e9e25a1fc09b79a3e624f2618f7c5d54ba69</a>
<br>
&nbsp;<br>
The rule says:<br>
&nbsp;<br>
</span></font><br>
A HXRI proxy resolution service is identified by an HTTP(S) URI in which: <br>
1.<font size=1><span style='font-size:7.5pt'> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font>The
least significant domain name begins with &quot;xri.&quot; AND <br>
2. <font size=1><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font>The
first character of the path is a GCS character (!, =, @, +, $), i.e., the
starting character of a canonical XRI. <br>
<br>
These two rules together should produce an diminimus number of false positives.
<br>
<font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>=Drummond <br>
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<br>
Drummond, this smells strange to me.&nbsp; But the only questions I can
formulate are:<br>
<br>
-- How did you get from '<a href="http://xri.net/'%A0" eudora=autourl>http://xri.net/'
</a>to '<a href="http://xri/" eudora=autourl>http://xri</a>*' ?<br>
-- What kind of funny-business might happen with '<a href="http://xri.ru/"
eudora=autourl>http://xri.ru</a>' ' or ' <a href="http://xri.joaquin.net/"
eudora=autourl>http://xri.joaquin.net</a>'?<br>
<br>
Cordially, Joaquin<br>
<br>
Well, maybe this one, too:<br>
<br>
-- Since I can run my own XRI root and resolver, ...&nbsp; what?&nbsp; (?)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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