[OpenID] OpenID Japan and IDTBD

Peter Williams pwilliams at rapattoni.com
Sun Apr 19 09:42:47 UTC 2009

"Under this principle, the key concept would be that IDTBD “Projects” would not be limited to being subgroups of IDTBD as a legal entity, but could also be separate legal entities. For example, a non-profit organization such as the OpenID Foundation, Information Card Foundation, or an open source project such as the Higgins Project, could all qualify to participate as IDTBD Projects."

This notion of "qualification" concerns me, as a openid community participant. Generally, governance and adoption fight each other in crypto political arenas - where openid is now a major headliner.

I tried very hard to keep CAs separate from mandatory key escrow service providers, for example, understanding that the fully informed, average joe will not trust any firm that does both functions (and many corporate folks in turn will not (and cannot) trust pki operators until such as mandatory key escrow control -guarantees- exist for pki).

You don't find a political solution to a governance formalization dilemma by formalizing governance ("qualification.") . To use a junk quantum crypto allusion, the very act of observing destroys the observed entropy.

Powerless peter.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nat <sakimura at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 11:37 PM
To: David Recordon <recordond at gmail.com>; brett at projectliberty.org <brett at projectliberty.org>
Cc: britta.glade at gmail.com <britta.glade at gmail.com>; Scott Kveton <scott at kveton.com>; general <general at openid.net>; Don Thibeau <don at oidf.org>
Subject: Re: [OpenID] OpenID Japan and IDTBD


As far as I know, there is no press release on Monday. It is supposed
to be just a soft launch in Brett's speach. Since my PC is broken now,
I have not been reading my company mail since yesterday, It may have
changed while I do not know, but I doubt it. Perhaps it is mixed up
with the Japanese release which is expected in June.

What is the data source?

Brett, can you make sure of David's request? Not that I or OpeniD
Japan do not support IDTBD (We Do), but my endorsement is as NRI and
XDI.org, for the time being.

By the way David, I think it would be pretty difficult to have no
mention of OpenID in the press coverage since it is a part of Venn of
Identity, unless we live in Soviet Union or North Korea. I hope you
just mean "Press release issued by IDTBD in North America" rather than
press coverage by "North American Pres".

=nat at SF via iPhone

On 2009/04/18, at 19:46, David Recordon <recordond at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Nat,
> I'm at Foo Camp hearing a bit about the IDTBF launch on this Monday.
> Also heard that their current draft press release includes "OpenID
> Japan". I thought we had agreed to not include any mention of
> "OpenID" in any North American press.  Please ensure that this is
> corrected ASAP.
> Thanks,
> --David
> --
> Sent from my iPhone Classic

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