[OpenID] Need of the hour for OpenID

Breno de Medeiros breno at google.com
Wed Apr 8 17:16:04 UTC 2009

The logical conclusion of this argument is that DNS cannot exist. Too
many parties have an interest in controlling how traffic gets routed
in the Internet.

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:34 PM, SitG Admin
<sysadmin at shadowsinthegarden.com> wrote:
>> It is increasingly clear to me, that the solution involves a centralized
>> distribution mechanism which I alluded to in my "Suggestions for OpenID
> Actually, centralization is the *problem* - and OpenID is the *solution*.
>> 2.1". Something in the lines of "Personal Discovery Service".
> One thing that *has* been discussed on this list, in the past, that you
> could look into, is OP's whose sole or main duty is to inform the RP of
> multiple other OP's, depending on who that RP is and what the user has
> authorized, thus keeping information about the user's other OP's secret from
> RP's the user did not intend to do business with and authenticate to.
>> This can be possible only if all the major players come to an agreement on
>> this. OpenID is in a perfect position to make this happen. This is easier
>> said than done though. All the major players have their own vested
>> interests.
> Some of these interests happen to be identical - and *that* is why what you
> are describing will *never* happen. Too many major players will lose out if
> any single player becomes the central authority. The only way for each of
> them to be sure that noone else has gained that advantage, is for *all* of
> them to be *equally* powerless: in other words, a USER-centric topology.
>> To begin with, the solution must only consider sharing of basic profile
>> data. Bringing in other social data will only magnify the disagreements.
>> And
>> in any case as far as Openid is concerned its interests should only be in
>> the basic profile.
> Succinct translation: OpenID needs to shoot itself in the foot.
> -Shade
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