[OpenID] general Digest, Vol 32, Issue 23

John Bradley john.bradley at wingaa.com
Sat Apr 4 06:09:56 UTC 2009

Yes the point being that while everyone had the same AX book they seem  
to be reading from different chapters.

In my OSIS testing I realized that AX is facing adoption resistance  
because of different high-level interpretations of how it aught to work.

The spec per se is fine,  we are missing the high level interop  

That is why when someone on the list pointed to google as an example  
of how to solve the verified email issue with AX,
I thought it was a good idea to consider how google is doing it .    
They are interpreting things differently.

That may be the best solution but we should explore the consequences  
of going in that direction.

John Bradley

On 3-Apr-09, at 10:42 PM, general-request at openid.net wrote:

> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:41:34 -0700
> From: SitG Admin <sysadmin at shadowsinthegarden.com>
> Subject: Re: [OpenID] About Facebook, MySpace and OpenID
> To: Andrew Arnott <andrewarnott at gmail.com>
> Cc: general at openid.net
> Message-ID: <f06110401c5fca2916b1e@[]>
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>> 'if_available' suggests if the OP happens to know it, then the RP
>> wants it.  This isn't a 'if_user_opts_in' parameter.  Which makes it
>> basically the same as 'required', except the OP can feel less badly
>> about not supplying it.
> This may be an attempt at convenience for the user. When the RP
> doesn't know how many of its "optional" fields a user may want to
> fill out, it can't guess which ones to put as "required" so the OP
> will respond - and the RP doesn't want to pose an inconvenience upon
> the user to type in fields manually just because the user wasn't
> asked for them originally.
> That's how I thought AX *worked*, or was supposed to: the user could
> click on "fill out this data automatically from my OP", and the RP
> would send the user back to their OP just long enough to do so.
> -Shade

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