[OpenID] About Facebook, MySpace and OpenID

Andrew Arnott andrewarnott at gmail.com
Fri Apr 3 15:57:40 UTC 2009

I really don't understand this obsession you have about how OpenID is a
useless "extra step" without an email address being part of it. Any shopping
mall web site that requires a login will need to take a username+password,
plus email verification, or an OpenID, plus email verification.  There's no
extra step -- it's an exchange of one step for a different step.  And yes,
it absolutely makes sense to do this because customers won't have to create
yet another username and password.

I really don't care too much about jumping to my email client for an email
verification step. I don't mind that.  What I really mind is remembering
another username and password because that lasts a long time.

I'm not disagreeing that skipping email verification would be convenient,
but geez, man, how long can you beat this dead horse?
Andrew Arnott
"I [may] not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death
your right to say it." - Voltaire

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 8:43 AM, santrajan <santrajan at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am posting the full text of my blog post with the same subject here.
> http://santrajan.blogspot.com/2009/04/about-facebook-myspace-and-openid.html
> MySpace recently announced there support for OpenID. The idea here is that
> MySpace users will be able to log in to third party sites with their
> MySpace
> Id's. MySpace users needn't get too exited about it too soon.
> Consider this. A MySpace user would like to log in to her favorite shopping
> site with her MySpace Account. The shopping site is unlikely to support
> MySpace Logins. The simple reason being that shopping sites need the email
> addresses of their authenticated users for various reasons (communicating
> orders, delivery, new stock etc etc). It doesnt make sence to the shopping
> site to authenticate using MySpace (An extra step) and then run the user
> through another email verification process. This will also be true for many
> other web sites that require their users to login.
> However  MySpace could have made the users email available to the shopping
> site (Ofcource with the users consent only) via a provision in the OpenID
> specifications called SREG. So then why didnt MySpace choose to support
> This is not a problem for MySpace alone. When Facebook decides to support
> OpenID it will be faced with the same dilemma. It is really a frightening
> thought for social networking sites to hand over their users email address
> to a third party. For social networking sites keeping the users bound their
> network is of primary importance.
> However an equally frightening possibility for social networking sites is
> to
> see their users start using Google accounts and Yahoo accounts to log in
> into third party sites! They could start loosing users in that case too.
> The jury is out on what these guys should do.
> But I am clear on what MySpace should have done. Facebook being the no 1
> social networking site can wait this one out a bit more. However MySpace
> should really have capitalized on this opportunity. Supported SREG and
> tried
> to rope in third party sites to support MySpace logins, and tried to build
> a
> small advantage over Facebook on this account.
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