[OpenID] About Facebook, MySpace and OpenID

Breno de Medeiros breno at google.com
Tue Apr 7 23:04:34 UTC 2009


This comments assumes that the Google OP is not  standard-compliant,
which is not the case. It is rather the case that different OPs have
implemented different standard-compliant behaviors. It maybe time to
revisit the standard and provide more clear recommendations on
interpretation.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Peter Williams <pwilliams at rapattoni.com> wrote:
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> It mentions the RP must store OAuth values, but says nothing of AX
> attributes.
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> This should be documented in the main API. Thanks.
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> Also it doesn't talk about the specifics, such as attributes you've never
> asked for before (or Google doesn't support) will still be returned when
> you later do ask (or Google starts supporting); or how Google
> interprets the if_available list in terms of the user's choice.
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> In the description of how to use AX, we have the following entry:
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> openid.ext1.required   (required) Specifies the attribute being requested.
> Currently, the only valid value is "email". This parameter must be set or
> Google will ignore the request.
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> In terms of "attributes you' ve never seen before" I think the better time
> to change the documentation is when announcing support for additional
> attributes. With a single supported attribute this point is mute.
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>  [Peter Williams] The only think Im going to do is ask my vendor if their
> openid implementation for RPs (offloading from the RP webapp) complies with
> the standard (and third-party-managed interoperability accords). Im not
> going to ask them: does it do Google’s API, or openid through the Google
> API. I will not bend my RP system to any one OP – even if they are AT&T (or
> Google).
>
> I have no expectation of ever reading the Google API document. I have every
> expectation of reading the openid documentation for RP from my favorite
> websso stack vendor, which will talk to Google OP (hopefully). If it turns
> out that working with Google has certain architectural implications on RP
> design that are not present with other OPs, I’ll probably ignore Google
> (until the firm decides to follow the open standard, and nothing more). Now,
> if for some reason, I *want* to have a bilateral agreement with Google, in
> which my RP is all tuned up the value-add that Google OP offers above and
> beyond the standard, then that’s fine. I can imagine of folks wanting that,
> so a bit of google  success rubs off on them. But I don’t; I want openid
> everywhere, vs access to google’s value add..
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