[OpenID] Voting confidentiality

Thu Dec 11 18:14:18 UTC 2008

Paul

Arn't  election-time disputes fun! Candidates quickly become issue focused (once communications become inflected with just a touch of invective)
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You and I will be find ourselves mostly in agreement on the future of openid I suspect -  but will speak to a different affiliation groups.  If it doesn't falter in the next 6 months, by bickering over money, influence and power-politics, OpenID has quite a predictable curve ahead of it  - driven by the strange duality of the websso and UCI properties. Both properties necessarily contribute to what the openid momentum is so far due to - though (I suspect) you and your affiliates may disagree on the latter.

We are now up to ~12 candidates have demonstrated basic skills in openid.

~5 have not.

If the illustrious Canadian in the remaining ~5 wants to invest 15m at http://bloggerindraft.blogspot.com/2007/11/new-feature-openid-commenting.html and post a list of his/her research papers, that's fine. Is he or she the one that just used a 13th century monarchy's power to suspend the Canadian parliament!?

My little rule set (now) calls for *any* "even trivial" demonstration - showing a personal endorsement of openid.

The core criteria ensures that the individual personally endorses the UCI property of openid - as demonstrated by being publicly associated with at least one act of reliance on any openid, issued by any OP.

And, Paul! Note, I don't have a vote. I have an endorsement. It's a much more powerful instrument of power.

Since it is based on openid/UCI, we will soon see how non discriminatory this election process has been. Util proven otherwise, I assume it will be run in practice using the kind of election rules US history is unfortunately infamous for, world-side: rigged to dis-enfranchise certain groups of folks (year after  year, decade after  decade, century after century).

We will now see, in our little sphere, if my voters' CA(s) are excluded from those the election software will accept, and thus the election policy - as manifest in the practices used to configure the software -prevents my voters' https openid being actually used - when certain members' cast their ballot using their choice of openid provider.

As the election process becomes clearer, these issues will surely all fall out and become accepted - in the wash of the next 2 weeks.

From: Paul Madsen [mailto:paulmadsen at rogers.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:52 AM
To: Peter Williams
Cc: general at openid.net
Subject: Re: [OpenID] Voting confidentiality

Peter, seems to me that the challenges OpenID faces are no longer primarily technical, and so criteria that might have been valid 1-2 years ago are no longer necessarily so.

I'd rather have had the candidates debating each other's policies on those challenges these last 2 weeks than defending the (surely built-in) OpenID support of whatever blogging platform they use (or challenging their respective corporate affiliations).

Regardless, you vote your way, I'll do the same.

Paul

Peter Williams wrote:

I'd be embarrassed, personally, if I was standing for a non-profit corporation's board seat on one that is fundamentally a  technology initiative - and never had personally used the technology I will be offering my "counsel".

So, who is it?

Please unmask the name of (Canadian?) Candidate who cannot show s/he has *used* openid, personally or professionally.

Who is it who cannot be bothered to spend 10m on Blogger and see an openid experience. Who cannot be bothered to spent 5m on myopenid, get an openid, and leave a comment on their own  blogger site?

I'm used to high power folk on high power Boards, Paul. But this isn't a high power board. So far, it's been a bunch or pretty average programmer types turned product managers. And there is nothing wrong with that. That's how the web was won in the first place, by the CERN-3 contingent. We even have one of them in our midst!

From: Paul Madsen [mailto:paulmadsen at rogers.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 3:01 AM
To: Peter Williams
Cc: general at openid.net<mailto:general at openid.net>
Subject: Re: [OpenID] Voting confidentiality

Whether or not their blog, wiki etc supports OpenID is way down on my list of criteria for a qualified candidate for the board.

I don't expect Canadian politicians to be active research scientists - but rather to create, fund & push policies that support scientific research.

paul

Peter Williams wrote:

~6 of 17 folks have reported that openid actually makes at least a little difference to their life on the web:  there is evidence they have bothered to integrate it with their own or their professional blog site.

~11 have not indicated that they actually use openid (in practice).

Ok. Ill open up the rules a bit. The candidate's claim to be ACUTALLY using openid does not have to be a blog comment form. It could be a wiki, or a registration site they manage, or...**anything** (in public) that I can apply myopenid. Ideally, I should be able to find the openid logo (so I don't hit the initial Snorri situation). If your firm is selling travel wiki software, and its customers are using openid in practice to flog airtickets, that's fine! Anything will do!

From: general-bounces at openid.net<mailto:general-bounces at openid.net> [mailto:general-bounces at openid.net] On Behalf Of Mike Jones
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:05 PM
To: general at openid.net<mailto:general at openid.net>
Subject: [OpenID] Voting confidentiality

We have 17 great candidates for 7 positions.  Please cast your votes!

                                                                -- Mike

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