[OpenID] What election?
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
eddy_nigg at startcom.org
Mon Dec 8 00:29:44 UTC 2008
There is already something like "Please list us as a member, and have
our logo displayed on the OIDF website and promotional materials."
Regards
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On 12/08/2008 12:23 AM, David Recordon:
> It would be fairly trivial to provide a list of eligible members to
> vote, though I'm unsure about the privacy implications and if the
> Foundation got permission to publicly list members. Seems like this
> is something we should add to your profile "List me as a member of the
> Foundation" and then use this to build out a page of both individual
> and corporate members.
>
> --David
>
> On Dec 7, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Scott Kveton wrote:
>
>
>>> Right. These questions are still not answered:
>>> 1. Is there a list of OpenID-s who are eligible to vote.
>>>
>> The membership committee would be best to answer that. David?
>>
>>
>>> 2. Is the election open or closed.
>>>
>> I'm not sure what you're referring to here. Can you elaborate on what
>> you mean by 'open' or 'closed'?
>>
>>
>>> 3. Where are the 'votes' kept, who counts them.
>>>
>> The votes are kept in the election software that was written
>> specifically for this purpose. I'm in the midst of getting public SVN
>> access available for folks but we're going to need to sanitize some of
>> the configuration options out (like login information to PayPal,
>> Blinksale, etc).
>>
>>
>>> Instead of a private software development effort, why not use Jyte
>>> for the
>>> open election process? Here's why:
>>>
>>> 1. Everybody with an OpenID (which seems to be the form and pre-
>>> requisite
>>> for foundation membership anyway) can nominate themselves or
>>> somebody else.
>>> (claims such as "http://martin.paljak.pri.ee for OpenID board").
>>> This way
>>> anyone could nominate a participant (a feature not available
>>> currently)
>>> 2. Everybody with an OpenID could cast a "vote" and share their
>>> comments.
>>> 3. On the election day, all casted votes on these claims are
>>> exported,
>>> filtered by the (openly available) list of people eligible to vote
>>> (foundation members) and counted.
>>> 4. Transparency is perfect, everybody could review and verify the
>>> outcome of
>>> the election.
>>>
>> There are several reasons for not using Jyte for something like this.
>>
>> 1. I don't believe Jyte will let us do this kind of voting; its thumbs
>> up or down. I suppose we could make N claims where each claim is a
>> nomination for one individual but then what do thumbs down votes
>> represent, etc?
>> 2. We have already built software that does what we need it to do.
>> 3. There is research that suggests having real time data on the status
>> of an on-going election will actually affect the outcome of the
>> election. I don't know if that's good or bad but its something to
>> consider. I imagine this has something to do with what you refer to
>> above around 'open' v. 'closed' elections.
>>
>>
>>> I would understand if the foundation process would be more formal,
>>> where all
>>> members would need to have been accepted by (board) meetings and a
>>> requirement to have a paper trail of those decisions etc. But
>>> currently this
>>> seems to be a very OpenID/$25 based process where it could really
>>> remain
>>> 'lightweight and web based'.
>>>
>> I think we're accomplishing the above assuming we can get good answers
>> to the questions you've posed (which I think we're well on our way to
>> doing).
>>
>> - Scott
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