[OpenID] Changes to the OpenID Foundation member page login

Eran Hammer-Lahav eran at hueniverse.com
Fri Dec 5 19:02:36 UTC 2008


I don't think anyone is saying that using this product should be forbidden, just that if it is done, it should be clearly marked as a vendor product, and ensure not to create the impression of endorsement. We need to make sure that short-term gains don't lead to long term loss.

EHL


> -----Original Message-----
> From: general-bounces at openid.net [mailto:general-bounces at openid.net] On
> Behalf Of Steven Livingstone-Perez
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 11:01 AM
> To: general at openid.net
> Subject: Re: [OpenID] Changes to the OpenID Foundation member page
> login
>
> I don't really have much of a say on this (other than being a new
> member)
> and you may 100% disagree with me, but IMHO there *is* an argument that
> in
> using best of breed products we can demonstrate the power of OpenID to
> users
> ... compared with the cost/effort to implement something that already
> does a
> really good job.
>
> I do understand the endorsement aspect, but on the other hand the UX is
> the
> biggest issue OpenID seems to have at the moment and it seems to me
> that
> using such products (so long as they are donated as such and not
> specific
> long term to any one company) can only be a positive thing.
>
> Put another way, last week I couldn't even log in. Today I can log in
> and it
> was a nice experience.
>
> Regards,
> Steven
> http://livz.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: general-bounces at openid.net [mailto:general-bounces at openid.net] On
> Behalf Of Scott Kveton
> Sent: 05 December 2008 18:46
> To: general at openid.net
> Subject: Re: [OpenID] Changes to the OpenID Foundation member page
> login
>
> > I also have no problem using a vendor product if it serves the needs
> and
> > interests of the foundation if 1) the relationship between the vendor
> and
> > foundation is made clear 2) the decision-making process for selecting
> the
> > product is transparent and 3) efforts are made to make the use of the
> > product transparent and to not appear as though the foundation does
> or
> does
> > not endorse the vendor or the product.
>
> +1 on the usability but -1 on the endorsement of a member's product by
> the
> OIDF.
>
> David and I have worked hard over the last couple of years to not give
> preferential treatment to any one vendors' products on openid.net.  An
> example was when David reminded me about the default Identity in the
> browser (IDIB) being enabled on openid.net (its included with wpopenid
> by default for Wordpress).  I agreed and we made sure to disable it as
> it is technically a project that is driven by my company (Vidoop)
> although we're doing the best we can to make it an open solution.
>
> Can anybody enlighten us on the points that Chris raises?  How did we
> decide to use this solution?  What should the OIDF be doing here?
>
> - Scott
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