[OpenID] Changes to the OpenID Foundation member page login

[David Recordon]

This is also something where Scott and I have been really cognizant of  
as we blog on OpenID.net and the software choices we've made on the  
site the past few years.

--David

On Dec 5, 2008, at 10:35 AM, Chris Messina wrote:

> +1.
>
> I find myself in a bit of a tough spot, as Janrain is a competitor  
> to my employer, but I think that's it's completely above the pale to  
> strive to maintain vendor neutrality, regardless of the vendor.
>
> I also have no problem using a vendor product if it serves the needs  
> and interests of the foundation if 1) the relationship between the  
> vendor and foundation is made clear 2) the decision-making process  
> for selecting the product is transparent and 3) efforts are made to  
> make the use of the product transparent and to not appear as though  
> the foundation does or does not endorse the vendor or the product.
>
> I'm guessing that in this case a decision was made off-the-cuff and  
> no special treatment was rendered, but it sets a poor precedent for  
> subsequent decisions, and is something that I believe is covered in  
> Section 5.14 of the byaws on conflicts of interest.
>
> Chris
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav <eran at hueniverse.com 
> > wrote:
> Oh.
>
>
> I didn't know that; which now makes sense because I did notice the  
> weird RP URL when asked to approve the request.
>
>
> Without taking anything away from the quality of the product, it  
> does raise the question of should the OpenID foundation site endorse  
> a vendor product, or at least with some clear disclaimer explaining  
> the relationship. I don't know what decision-making process was used  
> to install the new login flow, but I think it should have included  
> addressing such concerns to make sure we keep the foundation as  
> vendor-neutral as possible.
>
>
> The fact that I had no idea a commercial product was being used (I  
> played with the JanRain product when it first came out but forgot  
> about it and didn't make the association) make me feel a little bit  
> tricked… It is still a solid product and the closest thing I have  
> seen so far in terms of usability, but the issue here is purely  
> political, not technical.
>
>
> EHL
>
>
>
>
> From: DeWitt Clinton [mailto:dewitt at unto.net]
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 10:07 AM
>
> To: Steven Livingstone-Perez
> Cc: Eran Hammer-Lahav; general at openid.net
> Subject: Re: [OpenID] Changes to the OpenID Foundation member page  
> login
>
>
> I believe this particular bit of awesomeness is due to the JanRain  
> RPX solution:
>
>   http://www.janrain.com/products/rpx
>
> -DeWitt
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Steven Livingstone-Perez <weblivz at hotmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
> I agree - and it's all working great for me now too :) I can vote!
>
> Well done.
>
> Steven.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: general-bounces at openid.net [mailto:general-bounces at openid.net]  
> On
> Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav
> Sent: 05 December 2008 17:53
> To: general at openid.net
> Subject: [OpenID] Changes to the OpenID Foundation member page login
>
> Sweet!
>
> The new login flow is such a dramatic improvement (and a really good
> reference for future usability discussions) that it is almost worth  
> $25 just
> to play with. Maybe that is going too far... :-) but seriously, this  
> is a
> great new feature of the site.
>
> EHL
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