[OpenID] URL normalization issues

Steve Bjorg steveb at mindtouch.com
Sat Mar 24 21:16:28 UTC 2007

Sorry for the confusion then.  Didn't mean to stir things up.  I'll  
go back to lurking now. ;)

Thanks for clarifying.


- Steve

Steve G. Bjorg

On Mar 24, 2007, at 3:30 AM, Martin Atkins wrote:

> Steve Bjorg wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I'm new to the list, but have been reading it for a while.  I say
>> that, because I don't agree with statement below.  Maybe that's due
>> to my misunderstanding, but it seems that Yadis has a greater purpose
>> than to just serve OpenID.  I was actually thinking of leveraging it
>> to create additional associations with different non-identification
>> based services.  Being able to find everything in one place
>> (identity, preferences, etc) is very appealing.  So,  coupling XRDS
>> to OpenID would diminish it potential in my opinion.
>> Does anybody else use XRDS for more than just identification?
> I did not mean to imply that Yadis would be only for discovery of an
> OpenID service endpoint, I was simply talking about the OpenID
> *Brand*... that is, XRDS-based service discovery (which can still be
> used for discovering anything you like!) would be called an OpenID
> specification rather than being off in the separate world of Yadis.
> Really the idea was just to bring everything together into one place,
> since it's clear that the disjoint relationship between OpenID and  
> Yadis
> causes confusion and makes the OpenID Authentication spec seem more
> complicated simply because it references "someone else's" spec despite
> the fact that it's not really someone else's spec at all.
> So just to make it clear, in my proposed world, there would be  
> three specs:
> OpenID Authentication 2.0 - This is the spec that's already  
> drafted, but
> with the Yadis references turned into references to the below new  
> specs.
> Service Discovery using XRDS - Describes the subset of the XRDS format
> used for service discovery, so that developers using it only for  
> service
> discovery don't have to learn all of the XRI resolution-related  
> bits and
> pieces.
> Discovery for HTTP and HTTPS URLs - Describes how to take an HTTP URL
> and find its XRDS document. This is simply the first chunk of Yadis
> where it asks you to look for X-XRDS-Location, etc.
> OpenID Authentication 2.0 would then be written as an application of
> XRDS-based service discovery. Nothing would really change  
> technically...
> it's just a branding/perception issue.
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