[OpenID] No benefits of XRI i-names/i-numbers asOpenIDs(was:isopenid 2.0 a lightweight identity system?)

[Recordon, David]

On my Treo...

One of the reasons we didn't choose to just tell everyone to use xri.net is it would limit the use of XRIs in OpenID to those which are globally resolvable.  Just as you can have an internal DNS server, you can do the same with XRI.

The downside is that resolving XRIs is not as ubiquitos as URLs, which meant more than just "resolve the XRI" had to go into the spec.

--David


 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Chasen, Les [mailto:les.chasen at neustar.biz]
Sent:	Tuesday, February 13, 2007 01:04 PM Pacific Standard Time
To:	David Fuelling; Dmitry Shechtman
Cc:	general at openid.net
Subject:	Re: [OpenID] No benefits of XRI i-names/i-numbers asOpenIDs(was:isopenid 2.0 a lightweight identity system?)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: general-bounces at openid.net [mailto:general-bounces at openid.net]
On
> Behalf Of David Fuelling
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 9:56 AM
> To: 'Dmitry Shechtman'
> Cc: general at openid.net
> Subject: Re: [OpenID] No benefits of XRI i-names/i-numbers as
> OpenIDs(was:isopenid 2.0 a lightweight identity system?)
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: general-bounces at openid.net [mailto:general-bounces at openid.net]
On
> > Behalf Of Dmitry Shechtman
> >
> > So please don't make simple things complicated, i-names could be
easily
> > support using idproxy.net like proxy, we don't need it in the core
> OpenID
> > spec.
> >
> > There's nothing wrong with OpenID resolving i-names to
http://xri.net/
> > URIs. Since there is a proxy there already, it should simply handle
the
> > rest.
> >
> 
> Sorry if this has been answered, but isn't http://xri.net an endpoint
for
> a
> registrar? 
[Chasen, Les] 
No.  XRI.NET is nothing more than a proxy resolver for XRIs.  It is
based on the OpenXRI code base.  Anyone can run one and in fact over
time they should be brought down to the desktop.

(i.e., there could be competitors to xri.net)?
[Chasen, Les] 
There is nothing to compete on.  It is just a resolver.

> 
> If this is true, the above is a bit like saying, "the openid spec
should
> simply perform URL resolution using Verisign's DNS directory".
> 
> Why should the OpenId spec coronate a given vendor/endpoint?  A "good"
> spec
> should be more agnostic (like it is now).
[Chasen, Les] 
I think it is.  It is just pointing people to a public server that can
resolve an iname so that folks don't have to install one themselves.
Xri.net is not the authoritative source for an XRI.

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