[OpenID] OpenID Chance II

Adrian.Blakey at kp.org Adrian.Blakey at kp.org
Thu Feb 1 22:42:20 UTC 2007

Taking the medical example you just mentioned - wouldn't it be sensible if 
the National provider Id enumerator (see 
https://nppes.cms.hhs.gov/NPPES/Welcome.do) was an OpenId identity 

Of course anything sensible like this will never happen - it's health care 

Johannes Ernst <jernst+openid.net at netmesh.us> 
Sent by: general-bounces at openid.net
02/01/2007 11:14 AM

sassen at thinsia.com
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Re: [OpenID] OpenID Chance II

To apply Bob Blakley's terminology, see http://netmesh.info/jernst/ 

what you are asking for is to augment identity information with 
reputation information, in this case an individual's degree (a kind 
of reputation using the above terminology) from a reputation source 
(e.g. the college where they got the degree).

The technical solution to this can be rather straightforward, as all 
that needs to be found out about is a boolean value or similar ("has 
degree", "does not have degree"). The much harder problem is an 
adoption problem: how does one get all, say, medical schools to make 
assertions like that in electronic form?

But on the other question -- I (and NetMesh) are interested in this 

On Feb 1, 2007, at 10:40, Roland Sassen (using mozilla) wrote:

> The Wikipedia suffers from anonymous people adding nonsense. To make a
> better
> Wikipedia Larry Sanger, co founder of Wikipedia, made Citizendium. 
> Anonymity
> is banned here. Citizendium is about to "hit the streets"
> I posted this to the Citizendium mailing list:
> "To login to Citizendium people chose a user name and a password. A 
> new
> protocol,
> OpenID, allows users to have one user name / password combination, and
> login to
> all OpenID enabled sites with this combination. And this username
> /password combination
> can be exchanged by a so called URL or web-address (like 
> www.thinsia.com)
> This is very user-friendly.
> So I suggest to enable OpenID to the Citizendium site!
> For more information have a look at the OpenID site here
> <http://www.openid.net>, or on the Open ID wiki
> <http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page>
> I blogged about it here
> <http://www.thinsia.com/blog/index.php?entry=entry070118-135301> and
> OpenID in the press is here <http://blogs.zdnet.com/digitalID/?p=78> .
> Roland Sassen "
> Mike Johnson answered:
> " Hi Roland,
> I'm Mike Johnson from the Citizendium Executive Committee- thanks for
> the email about OpenID. It's certainly on our radar, but our needs 
> are a
> little different than those of most organizations.
> In short, we'd like a distributed identification system to provide 
> users
> with a common login across sites (as OpenID does), but, since we also
> need to know people have the PhDs or MDs they say they do, we'd 
> like one
> that also has the ability to actually "authenticate" who users are in
> the real world against some trustworthy authority.
> I suspect that OpenID could do such a thing, by allowing sites like
> Citizendium to define other sites that we trust to verify that 
> users are
> who they say they are in the real world. However, in my (somewhat
> limited) research on OpenID, I've never heard of this happening.
> It's not absolutely necessary, but if something like this could be set
> up it would be a large incentive for us to adopt OpenID. Your 
> thoughts?
> Know who'd be the best person to ask about this?
> Best,
> Mike"
> Three questions:
> 1 how can this be done
> 2 who would like to be "the best person to ask about this?
> 3 is the OpenID community interested at all in being used, in the 
> world,
> and are there idea?s about
> how to make initial contacts (in a more proper way as I did)?
> I do see some more opportunities!
> cheers, Roland Sassen
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