[OpenID - Eu] Mission Statement

Fri Jun 1 13:53:45 UTC 2007

Chris,

The EU OIDF is owner of the Trademark OpenID in Europe.
You can look http://www.icimarques.com/ or http://oami.europa.eu/en/default.htm for example
I protected the mark to prevent that a company does not assert the OpenID mark.
(for another commercial use). But it's complicated because there is already much company in Europe which uses "OpenID" (but not for the framework).
For example in France : www.openid.fr, in Germany : www.openid.de  and in Romania OpenID.ro (close) that wants to make a lawsuit...
But we have good lawyers who works (And by the end of the year 2007, all should be ok).

But it's necessary to distinguish protection from the mark of the use. 
For The use (copyright license, IPR policies...), there should be only one rule for worldwide!
And the OIDF (US) worked much for that... David can better speak about it! The draft is finish David? ;-)

Yes I see your point of view, but you speak about OP or RP? (for RP I think?)
But concretely, I don't understand what you want to say by "certification"?

Sincerely
-Snorri

-----Message d'origine-----
De : eu-bounces at openid.net [mailto:eu-bounces at openid.net] De la part de Chris Obdam
Envoyé : vendredi 1 juin 2007 14:37
À : Recordon, David
Cc : Snorri; eu at openid.net
Objet : Re: [OpenID - Eu] Mission Statement

David,

I can the problems with mixing trademarks etc. with a certification  
programme. But the EU OpenID is not the owner of the trademark.

As I see it, the 'global' OpenID foundation is respondible for that.  
So the EU OpenID can offer some extra services like a certfication  
programme, for free as I see it.
A lot of people don not understand how to use testing tools etc. A  
simple certificate could be better to understand and with such a  
programme we can demand the connected providers to use a 'standard'  
implementation.

Greetings,

Chris

On 1-jun-2007, at 2:31, Recordon, David wrote:

> Yes, this was a lot of the reasoning behind us not having a  
> certification program, wanting to make sure the organization  
> remained neutral and it didn't seem like anyone had to pay money to  
> use OpenID.
>
> What we're more looking at is creating testing tools so that people  
> can have an official way to make sure their RP or OP correctly  
> implements the protocol.  The main difference we see between this  
> and certification is that no one is paying money to use the tools  
> nor there be a list of "compliant" providers.
>
> We just see it as hard to mix owning things like trademarks,  
> domains, etc with a paid certification program since there is the  
> potential for people to think they *have to* pay the certification  
> fee to use OpenID.
>
> --David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Snorri [mailto:snorri at snorri.eu]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:20 PM
> To: Recordon, David; 'Andrew Tominson'; 'Chris Obdam'
> Cc: eu at openid.net
> Subject: RE: [OpenID - Eu] Mission Statement
> Importance: High
>
> Hello,
>
> Thank you Andrew for your good resume,
>
> Chris, of the beginning, I thought that the foundation was to  
> propose a certification for the "best" providers (or relying party),
> But today, my opinion is that the foundation must be always  
> neutral! Is not the first objective! (Later it will be always  
> possible to think of it, yes!),
>
> The Mission Statement of OpenID Europe Foundation is to push for  
> the "implementations" in the maximum of websites. Because true work  
> is here! (To become OP is easy ;-))
> I will appreciate that all your ideas and initiatives go in this  
> direction... (I work much to convince)
>
> What do you think about it?
>
> -Snorri
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : eu-bounces at openid.net [mailto:eu-bounces at openid.net] De la  
> part de Recordon, David
> Envoyé : mercredi 30 mai 2007 17:34
> À : Andrew Tominson; eu at openid.net
> Objet : Re: [OpenID - Eu] Mission Statement
>
> Hey Andrew,
> Those seem quite reasonable to me.
>
> One of the other things we did was explicitly define things which  
> we would not do to help scope the organization.  For example:
>  - Approve OpenID specifications
>  - Certify OpenID providers or implementations
>
> Just a good way to keep the organization growing from what it was  
> intended to do by accident.
>
> --David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: eu-bounces at openid.net [mailto:eu-bounces at openid.net] On  
> Behalf Of Andrew Tominson
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 8:54 AM
> To: eu at openid.net
> Subject: [OpenID - Eu] Mission Statement
>
> Had a go at the mission statement and put together some bullet  
> points...
>
> * The purpose of the OpenID Europe Foundation is to raise the  
> profile of OpenID for people within the European Union.
>
> * Through contact with both implementers and the general public, we  
> increase awareness, ease deployment and promote OpenID in a way  
> everyone can understand.
>
> * We are active within the wider OpenID community and through  
> contact with founders and developers, we are the European voice of  
> OpenID and represent our members when key decisions are being made.
>
> * We advise businesses to help them deliver OpenID-compatible  
> products to maximise the value of the technology for the general  
> public.
>
> Just my €0.02 worth, but as I said before I am new here ;)
>
> Andrew
>
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