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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The specs are written in normative spec language, but they still describe a process that’s very simple at it’s core. Have a look at
<a href="http://nat.sakimura.org/2012/01/20/openid-connect-nutshell/">http://nat.sakimura.org/2012/01/20/openid-connect-nutshell/</a>, which is written as a primer, rather than in spec language. After that, I think you’ll agree that what’s there is actually
quite simple to use.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">If you still disagree, then we’d be interested in hearing what specific changes you’d suggest that we make.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> -- Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Paul E. Jones [mailto:paulej@packetizer.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 30, 2012 10:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mike Jones; specs@openid.net<br>
<b>Cc:</b> board@openid.net; gsalguei@cisco.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Implementer's Drafts posted with -ID1 version designations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Gee, guys… I think something has gone terribly wrong here. I was really excited about OpenID, believing it was a very important technology. Further, OpenID was fairly simple. One part was complex: the client
code for the RP had to deal with querying the user’s ID, looking for a Yadis file, and possibly digging through an HTML document – all in an effort to find the URI for the user’s OP. The OP code, on the other hand, is fairly trivial.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">OpenID 2.0 could have been simplified easily be removing the requirement for processing a Yadis file and HTML document and replacing that with a simple Link header in HTTP. One could also use RFC 6415 (Host-Meta)
to make it simple to advertise one’s OpenID ID (a “challenge” for the average person to use) and even the OP URI (though perhaps not so beneficial).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I wanted to get engaged in the work, but getting Cisco to sign agreements, especially when this was not my core job function, was a bit of a challenge. So, the work proceeded without me. It’s unfortunate, because
my initial reaction to what I’ve seen is ... what happened?!?!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">OpenID Connect was supposed to be simple. That was one of the claim made when it was introduced. Looking at these drafts, I’d argue that “simple” has been thrown out the window, in spite of the claim “simple”
in the abstract of these documents. Perhaps it’s just a false first impression, but these documents certainly appear to introduce a lot of procedure and make reference to number of required specifications that are not listed in the list below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Do you really want to go down this path? I would still be open to a simplification of OpenID 2.0 to remove the pain points.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:openid-specs-bounces@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>
<a href="mailto:[mailto:openid-specs-bounces@lists.openid.net]">[mailto:openid-specs-bounces@lists.openid.net]</a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Jones<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 27, 2012 8:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:specs@openid.net">specs@openid.net</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Implementer’s Drafts posted with -ID1 version designations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The approved Implementer’s Drafts are now also posted at these locations:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><a href="http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-basic-1_0-ID1.html">http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-basic-1_0-ID1.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><a href="http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-discovery-1_0-ID1.html">http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-discovery-1_0-ID1.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><a href="http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-registration-1_0-ID1.html">http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-registration-1_0-ID1.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><a href="http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-messages-1_0-ID1.html">http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-messages-1_0-ID1.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><a href="http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-standard-1_0-ID1.html">http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-standard-1_0-ID1.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><a href="http://openid.net/specs/oauth-v2-multiple-response-types-1_0-ID1.html">http://openid.net/specs/oauth-v2-multiple-response-types-1_0-ID1.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The original versions with numeric version designations remain in place.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> -- Mike<o:p></o:p></p>
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