The RWW article is wrong on many points, but overall it's fantastic that Janrain got a new round of funding - this just proves that investors recognize that Janrain is creating a lot of value by helping websites integrate 3rd party identities. <div>
<br></div><div>Allen</div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Eric Sachs <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:esachs@google.com">esachs@google.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div>Looks fine. A bunch of small cleanup items below.</div><div class="im"><div><br></div><div>>> <span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">l<a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/rip_openid_janrain_raises_millions_to_do_just_the.php" style="color:rgb(17, 85, 204)" target="_blank">ittle corners of the internet</a></span></div>
</div><div>expand the hyperlink to include the l</div><div><br></div><div>>> <span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">preso is at</span></div>
<div>change to "presentation on"</div><div class="im"><div><br></div>>> <span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">OpenID Connect, like OAuth 2.0</span></div>
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<font color="#333333" face="arial, sans-serif">Make OpenID Connect link to </font><a href="http://openid.net/2011/07/15/current-map-for-openid-connect/" target="_blank">http://openid.net/2011/07/15/current-map-for-openid-connect/</a></div>
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<div><br></div><div>>> <span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">from Google, Microsoft and Facebook.</span></div>
</div><div><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">change to "from companies like"</span></div><div class="im"><div><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)"><br>
</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">>> small companies will do. We can see where they invest.</span></div>
</div><div><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">change to "small companies will do, we can see where they invest."</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)"><br></span></div><div><font color="#333333" face="arial, sans-serif">>> </font><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">those ChuckM described.</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">change to "Chuck Mortimore"</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)"><br>
</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">>> </span><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)"> at a OpenID Summit</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">change to "at an OpenID Summit"</span></div><div class="im"><div><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)"><br>
</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">>> </span><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)"> <a href="http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/labs/siliconvalley/default.aspx" style="color:rgb(17, 85, 204)" target="_blank">Mountain View CA at Microsoft's offices </a> </span><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">the OpenID Foundation will be hosting a technical interop and testing workshop for engineers and developers interested in OpenID Connect.</span></div>
</div><div><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">Split the sentence so it ends after the hyperlink, i.e. ""...</span><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)"> <a href="http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/labs/siliconvalley/default.aspx" style="color:rgb(17, 85, 204)" target="_blank">Mountain View CA at Microsoft's offices</a>. T</span><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">he OpenID Foundation will be hosting a technical interop and testing workshop for engineers and developers interested in OpenID Connect."</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">Lets also add a sentence at the end of the paragraph that says "There will also be sessions for website operators who want to learn more about why they should get out of the password business and integrate with identity providers. Information on how to register for the event will be posted soon."</span></div>
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<div><font color="#333333" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">>> </span><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">In other words, wether bearish or bullish don't touch the remote, stay tuned for more of the very ambitious, widely discussed project called <a href="http://openid.net/2011/07/15/current-map-for-openid-connect/" style="color:rgb(17, 85, 204)" target="_blank">OpenID Connect.</a></span></div>
</div><div>"wether" should be "whether" and need a comma after bullish</div><div>I am also uncomfortable with how the end of this sentence that is so protocol specific, when we know that most of the big IDPs are more likely to use OpenID Connect-"like" flows on top of OAuth. Can we simply change the end to say "In other words, whether bearish or bullish, don't touch the remote, stay tuned for more in the evolution of the OpenID.</div>
<div><br></div><div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Don Thibeau <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:don@oidf.org" target="_blank">don@oidf.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>All:</div><div><br></div><div><div>One of the topics discussed recently at Ping Identity's OpenID Summit at its Cloud Identity Conference and again at last week's Gartner Catalyst conference was a <a href="http://www.callcentreclinic.com/news/technology/the-consumerisation-of-the-enterprise-a-holistic-approach-to-the-social-media-generation-45361.htm" target="_blank">"consumerisation of the enterprise"</a> or IT trend. OpenID was at the center of those discussions as technology bulls and bears debated its value in both enterprise and consumer use cases. OpenID's evolution from l<a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/rip_openid_janrain_raises_millions_to_do_just_the.php" target="_blank">ittle corners of the internet</a> to mainstream adoption tracks the changes in internet identity best understood in hindsight. One leading edge adopter's review of how OpenID's user centricity morphed to a provider centric architecture is seen in <a href="http://Salesforce.com/" target="_blank">Salesforce.com</a>'s Chuck Mortimore's blunt but bullish preso is at <a href="http://youtu.be/ZxVJnxJ2Rvg" target="_blank">'Does OpenID work for the Enterprise?"</a> </div>
<div><br></div><div>In deciding wether one is bearish or bullish on OpenID it may be useful to "follow the money" and follow the leaders. </div><div><br></div><div>OpenID Connect, like OAuth 2.0, is among the few standards that has real technical engagement from Google, Microsoft and Facebook. While no one can predict what these companies, relying parties and small companies will do. We can see where they invest. Wether at industry conferences or launching pilots, industry leaders and developers like JanRain, Ping Identity and others making multi year /multi million dollar bets on protocols like OpenID Connect as it tracks with OAuth in enabling new claims and data centric architectures. Following the money supports a bullish view of the value beyond social/single sign-on in today's web. As noted companies like Ping Identity, JanRain and others have raised significant funding to pursue opportunities in this space. Analysts note a<span style="line-height:28px;color:rgb(51, 51, 51)"> strong </span><span style="line-height:28px;color:rgb(51, 51, 51)"><a href="http://www.marketwatch.com/story/identive-group-announces-second-quarter-2011-results-2011-08-04?reflink=MW_news_stmp" target="_blank">demand</a></span><span style="line-height:28px;color:rgb(51, 51, 51)"> for identity management solutions globally.</span></div>
<div><br></div><div>Bears among us rightfully point to how OpenID has been quiet over the past year as it adjusted to the new market conditions like those ChuckM described. Sausage and standards making isn't pretty and takes a maddening amount of time and money. Engineers, be they community volunteers or "volunteered" by large industry leaders take care when re-architecting a core offering like OpenID. Meanwhile OpenID Foundation members like Symantec, PayPal, Google, and others continue to co-sponsor OpenID Summits and other events with industry, where the evolution of OpenID is talked about and its adoption continues to increase around the world. Although OpenID may become more plumbing than the next big thing for the Silicon Valley tech press, its premise and technological underpinnings are proving to be solid and future-facing. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Finally, take a look at the work being done at Google and the <a href="http://openid.net/foundation/" target="_blank">OpenID Foundation</a> on the <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/gitooldocs/experiment---account-chooser" target="_blank">Account Chooser</a>, a scalable, user-friendly way to bring OpenID technologies to the masses, while still supporting a philosophy of decentralized, interoperable identity solutions. Bears and Bulls can judge for themselves as OpenID Connect is tried, tested and toughened at a OpenID Summit hosted by Microsoft on September 12 and 13 in <a href="http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/labs/siliconvalley/default.aspx" target="_blank">Mountain View CA at Microsoft's offices </a> the OpenID Foundation will be hosting a technical interop and testing workshop for engineers and developers interested in OpenID Connect.</div>
<div><br></div><div>In other words, wether bearish or bullish don't touch the remote, stay tuned for more of the very ambitious, widely discussed project called <a href="http://openid.net/2011/07/15/current-map-for-openid-connect/" target="_blank">OpenID Connect.</a></div>
</div><div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Don Thibeau</div><div>Executive Director </div><div><a href="http://OpenID.net" target="_blank">OpenID.net</a></div><div><br></div><br></font><div><div>
<div>On Aug 3, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Chris Messina wrote:</div><br></div><div><div></div><div><p>Tough article to read:</p><p><span><a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/rip_openid_janrain_raises_millions_to_do_just_the.php" target="_blank">readwriteweb.com/archives/rip_openid_janrain_raises_millions_to_do_just_the.php</a></span></p>
<div>Especially in light of the work on OpenID Connect, do we have a response?</div><div><br></div><div>Chris</div><br>-- <br>Chris Messina<br>Developer Advocate, Google<br><br><div><a href="http://chrismessina.me/" target="_blank">//chrismessina.me</a> | <a href="https://plus.google.com/102034052532213921839" target="_blank">+</a> | <a href="http://twitter.com/chrismessina" target="_blank">@chrismessina</a></div>
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