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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In a normal organization, committees
report to the full board -- not to another committee.&nbsp; I don't think we're
so big or complicated that we need a three-level committee structure (where
normal committees report to the executive committee which reports to the full
board) -- which is what I'm reacting negatively to.&nbsp; A two level
structure, where each committee regularly reports to the board will work well
for us, just like it does for countless other organizations, if only we can get
the committees besides the EC to meet and report regularly.&nbsp; Again, that
should be our focus.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The EC is not the board.&nbsp; It should
be just another committee, functioning like the others.&nbsp; We would do well
not to confuse the two.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; --
Mike<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net
[mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>David Recordon<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, January 16, 2010
12:58 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> openid-board@lists.openid.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [OpenID board] OpenID
Update: Orientation Briefing Feedback</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>GI seems to be supporting my second structure proposal. :)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2) The Executive Committee is made up of the four officers and
it&nbsp;solely focuses on the logistics which go into keeping the
organization&nbsp;really moving forward. &nbsp;(Things like Don's contract, the
budget, and&nbsp;that each Committee is making progress.) &nbsp;We would then
have a&nbsp;Leadership Committee (&lt;insert better name here&gt;) which is
made up of&nbsp;the Executive Committee and one chair from each remaining
Committee.&nbsp;This Committee would be empowered to tackle execution and
coordination&nbsp;issues across the organization; much like an executive team
at a&nbsp;company.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 12:52 AM, Mike Jones &lt;<a
href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>I'm not proposing to add roles to the EC (although I realize that
that's how this thread started).&nbsp; I think it's the *<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>one</span></b>* committee that's working fine as-is,
so I don't think we should change it.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>I strongly agree with you that we need well-organized and
accountable committees.&nbsp; Those committees should meet regularly and report
to the full board periodically, (preferably usually by e-mail status reports),
just like the EC does.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Adding lots of additional members to the EC, in my mind, is a
formula to break the one well-functioning committee we presently have.&nbsp;
(Apparently GI agrees with that assessment as well.)&nbsp; Instead, we should
be focusing our efforts on fixing the behaviors of the *<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>other</span></b>* committees.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
-- Mike</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:
bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>David Recordon<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, January 16, 2010
12:42 AM</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:openid-board@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [OpenID board] OpenID
Update: Orientation Briefing Feedback<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>This thread
started as a proposal to add a relying party&nbsp;liaison&nbsp;to the executive
committee. &nbsp;Why does the Executive Committee have technical and
international&nbsp;liaisons, but not a marketing&nbsp;liaison? &nbsp;Why not a
legal&nbsp;liaison? &nbsp;My proposals both create a more formulaic method as
to the organization's structure rather than adding roles to the Executive
Committee in an&nbsp;ad hoc&nbsp;fashion.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>And with respect,
I see fairly fundamental issues with how the Foundation is currently organized.
&nbsp;A board of twenty people is&nbsp;ineffective&nbsp;except in face to face
meetings. &nbsp;We must shift work into well organized and accountable
Committees and provide an organizational structure that appropriately supports
them. &nbsp;We must find a way to represent each Committee in a regular fashion
within a core execution driven group of the Foundation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>--David<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Sat, Jan 16,
2010 at 12:26 AM, Mike Jones &lt;<a href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com"
target="_blank">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>With respect to
the executive committee, I'm surprised that you're not listing a third option:
&nbsp;Let the executive committee remain as is. &nbsp;I for one, I don't see it
as broken, so I don't see a need to fix it.<br>
<br>
Herewith, I believe that the executive committee should remain the four officers,
plus an international liaison and a technical liaison.<br>
<br>
I *do* agree that the other committees should operate in a more accountable
fashion and report on their progress to the board more often. &nbsp;But doing
that seems independent of the EC to me. &nbsp;(The EC is the one committee that
*has* operated effectively and regularly reported on its results to the full
board -- a model that the other committees should emulate.)<br>
<br>
Covering all bases, I believe that the full board should meet about every 6-8
weeks. &nbsp;3 months is far too long between meetings at this stage of the
game. &nbsp;(I do believe that these meetings should be in person whenever
possible.)<br>
<font color="#888888"><span style='color:#888888'><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;-- Mike</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>]
On Behalf Of David Recordon<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Sent: Friday,
January 15, 2010 8:04 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:openid-board@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] OpenID Update: Orientation Briefing Feedback<br>
<br>
Hey Brian,<br>
It sounds like I'm being slightly misunderstood. &nbsp;I believe that<br>
either of the two following scenarios are reasonable.<br>
<br>
1) The Executive Committee is made up of the four officers and one<br>
chair from each remaining Committee. &nbsp;It's very likely that there will<br>
be overlap between Officers and Committee chairs. &nbsp;This means that the<br>
Executive Committee is around ten people. &nbsp;With strong leadership and<br>
agenda setting these calls should be productive.<br>
<br>
2) The Executive Committee is made up of the four officers and it<br>
solely focuses on the logistics which go into keeping the organization<br>
really moving forward. &nbsp;(Things like Don's contract, the budget, and<br>
that each Committee is making progress.) &nbsp;We would then have a<br>
Leadership Committee (&lt;insert better name here&gt;) which is made up of<br>
the Executive Committee and one chair from each remaining Committee.<br>
This Committee would be empowered to tackle execution and coordination<br>
issues across the organization; much like an executive team at a<br>
company.<br>
<br>
Part of my goal is ensuring that there is both regular accountability<br>
of each Committee to a group smaller than the Board itself and that<br>
each Committee has a meaningful forum to raise organizational needs on<br>
a regular basis.<br>
<br>
I imagine that the full board then meets only once a quarter and each<br>
Committee (including the Executive and/or Leadership) meets at least<br>
monthly with the majority of their work occurring between meetings via<br>
mailing lists.<br>
<br>
--David<br>
<br>
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Brian Kissel &lt;<a
href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com" target="_blank">bkissel@janrain.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<br>
&gt; So its sounding like most people would prefer or at least be comfortable<br>
&gt; with keeping the EC small as long as we ensure that:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &middot; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; we have the right committees (i.e.
make sure we add/have one<br>
&gt; focused on adoption with good representation by RPs)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &middot; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; the Committees have strong leadership
(including board members as<br>
&gt; co-chairs) and are communicating with the full board on a timely basis<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &middot; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; the board and EC make sure that the
OIDF is properly supporting<br>
&gt; the Committees and managing any cross committee functional issues that may<br>
&gt; be relevant<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; If that's the case, then the EC elections coming up next week will only be<br>
&gt; for the Chair, Vice-Chair, Secretary, and Treasurer's positions. &nbsp;Don<br>
&gt; Thibeau as Executive Director is also a member ex-officio.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; In addition to the 6 committees that David has proposed at<br>
&gt; <a href="http://wiki.openid.net/2010-Planning" target="_blank">http://wiki.openid.net/2010-Planning</a>,
are there any other committees that we<br>
&gt; collectively feel we should start out the year with? &nbsp;We can always
add and<br>
&gt; retire committees as necessary, but want to make sure we have the right
ones<br>
&gt; to start out the year.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &middot; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Adoption. &nbsp;Charter: Develop
OpenID as a product and largely<br>
&gt; working with relying parties to &quot;bring the voice of the
customer&quot; while<br>
&gt; looking at branding, usability, and delivered value.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &middot; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Government. Charter: Support the
needs of the US Federal<br>
&gt; Government and other governments looking to deploy OpenID.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &middot; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Security. &nbsp;Charter: Working with
the Technology Committee and<br>
&gt; various Working Groups, ensure that OpenID's security model is appropriate<br>
&gt; for how it is being deployed.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &middot; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Technology. Charter: Oversee the
technical Working Groups'<br>
&gt; progress and liase between them and the Adoption, Government, and Security<br>
&gt; Committees.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &middot; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Legal. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Charter:
Oversee, protect, and develop the<br>
&gt; Foundation's bylaws and IP it is responsible for such as copyrights and<br>
&gt; trademarks World-wide.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &middot; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; International Outreach.
&nbsp;Charter: Coordinate and support the work<br>
&gt; of OpenID communities primarily outside of <st1:place w:st="on">North
 America</st1:place>. Collaborate with<br>
&gt; OpenID Europe and <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Japan</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Cheers,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Brian<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ___________<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Brian Kissel<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; CEO - JanRain, Inc.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com" target="_blank">bkissel@janrain.com</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Mobile</st1:place></st1:City>:
503.342.2668 | Fax: 503.296.5502<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: <a href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net"
target="_blank">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a><br>
&gt; [mailto:<a href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net"
target="_blank">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>] On Behalf Of David
Recordon<br>
&gt; Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 2:43 PM<br>
&gt; To: <a href="mailto:openid-board@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [OpenID board] OpenID Update: Orientation Briefing Feedback<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; And thanks for the edits!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Personally I'm fine with the Executive Committee being the four<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; officers assuming that it's scope and role is fairly small.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Whether it's part of the Executive Committee or separate, I believe<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; that there is a need for a regularly meeting group of the Officers and<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Chairs. &nbsp;This group would be smaller than the Board itself and ensure<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; that the Foundation is supporting the needs of all of the Committees<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; and tackle cross-functional issues. &nbsp;This group must be empowered by<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; the Board to make decisions and thus progress. &nbsp;This is why I can
also<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; see a model where we re-charter the Executive Committee to have this<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; role.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I think about this much like how companies have executive teams that<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; generally have one representative from each major business function.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --David<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Brian Kissel &lt;<a
href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com" target="_blank">bkissel@janrain.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Thanks David, great idea. &nbsp;Highly encourage everyone to look at
David's<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; document and provide your feedback.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Cheers,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Brian<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; ___________<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Brian Kissel<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; CEO - JanRain, Inc.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com" target="_blank">bkissel@janrain.com</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Mobile</st1:place></st1:City>:
503.342.2668 | Fax: 503.296.5502<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Increase registrations, engage users, and grow your brand with RPX.
&nbsp;Learn<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; more at <a href="http://www.rpxnow.com" target="_blank">www.rpxnow.com</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; From: <a href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net"
target="_blank">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; [mailto:<a href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net"
target="_blank">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>] On Behalf Of David
Recordon<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 1:35 AM<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; To: <a href="mailto:openid-board@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [OpenID board] OpenID Update: Orientation Briefing
Feedback<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I think better when analyzing proposals. &nbsp;So put<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; together <a href="http://wiki.openid.net/2010-Planning" target="_blank">http://wiki.openid.net/2010-Planning</a>
which lists the officer<br>
&gt;&gt; roles<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; we need to fill and a stab at the various Committees and chairs (based
off<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; of this thread Don's deck).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; It's a wiki, please be editing!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --David<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Chris Messina &lt;<a
href="mailto:chris.messina@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.messina@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; It would seem that renaming Marketing to Adoption might be a prudent
move,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; if it also brings with it certain criteria for success and metrics to
help<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; gauge progress.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I think that the &quot;Marketing&quot; committee was ill-defined and
had weak<br>
&gt;&gt; support<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; - especially from a branding perspective where there is still no
agreement<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; on how important OpenID is a consumer brand.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; As such, I can see how the first priority should be Adoption, which
could<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; include pushing for the test suite and improving the libraries, which<br>
&gt;&gt; would<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; be followed by a more rigorous marketing approach.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Otherwise, I agree with focusing on committees, but I also think that
we<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; need to come up with a better approach to encourage progress within
the<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; committees, and for them to report their progress on the <a
href="http://openid.net" target="_blank">openid.net</a><br>
&gt;&gt; website<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; and lists. I think we've done a poor job communicating with the
outside<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; world what is going on with OpenID - and participation on these lists<br>
&gt;&gt; alone<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; does not suffice.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Chris<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:55 PM, David Recordon &lt;<a
href="mailto:recordond@gmail.com" target="_blank">recordond@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Yes, which is why one of our Committees must be directly focused on<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; making RPs successful. &nbsp;We need to disband our current Marketing<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Committee - it hasn't done anything - and create appropriate<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Committees with clear goals and leaders.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --David<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Allen Tom &lt;<a
href="mailto:atom@yahoo-inc.com" target="_blank">atom@yahoo-inc.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Given that adoption depends on RPs actually adopting OpenID, I
think it's<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; important that we visibly demonstrate to the community that RPs
(or at<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; least<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; potential RPs) have a voice.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Allen<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On 1/14/10 7:23 PM, &quot;David Recordon&quot; &lt;<a
href="mailto:recordond@gmail.com" target="_blank">recordond@gmail.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; 2010 is the year where we must work on developing OpenID as a
product<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; beyond<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; just a technology. &nbsp;That said, I don't think that extending
the Executive<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Committee with another appointed liaison role is the correct
approach.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; This year we must also push work out from the Board into
Committees.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;This<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; both broadens the pool of people who can directly become involved
and<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; forces<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; us as an organization to increase the value for non-sustaining
members.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; I believe that the Executive Committee should be chartered to
either:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; 1) remain small (no more than five) and perform the execution work
not<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; done<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; in the Committees themselves, or<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; 2) be made up of the Officers (president, vice president,
secretary,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; and treasurer) and the chair of each Committee to focus on
tackling<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; execution issues across the organization as a whole.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; I am supportive of being more formulaic to the organizations
leadership<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; structure.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; --David<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Brian Kissel &lt;<a
href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com" target="_blank">bkissel@janrain.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Well, I guess I didn't wait ;-) &nbsp;As I said on the call
yesterday, I think<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Daniel's idea is a good one. &nbsp;We added the technical and
international<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; liaison roles to ensure we had sufficient breadth of perspective
at the<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; executive committee working level, and I think it served us well
in 2009.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Given that we really want to continue to drive adoption and usage
in<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; 2010,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; having a representative on the EC that brings the &quot;voice of
the customer&quot;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; is<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; a good thing. &nbsp;We have some new board members that bring that
viewpoint<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; and<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; it would be great to make the most of this in the coming year.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Cheers,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Brian<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; ___________<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Brian Kissel &lt;<a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/0/10/254"
target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/pub/0/10/254</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; CEO - JanRain, Inc.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com" target="_blank">bkissel@janrain.com</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Mobile</st1:place></st1:City>:
503.342.2668 | Fax: 503.296.5502<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; From: <a href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net"
target="_blank">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; [mailto:<a href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net"
target="_blank">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>] On Behalf Of Brian
Kissel<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 6:06 PM<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; To: <a href="mailto:openid-board@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [OpenID board] OpenID Update: Orientation Briefing
Feedback<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks Don, I'll wait a bit to see how others respond before
putting in<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; my<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; +1<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Cheers,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Brian<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; ___________<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Brian Kissel &lt;<a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/0/10/254"
target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/pub/0/10/254</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; CEO - JanRain, Inc.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com" target="_blank">bkissel@janrain.com</a><br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; From: <a href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net"
target="_blank">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; [mailto:<a href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net"
target="_blank">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>] On Behalf Of Don
Thibeau<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; (OIDF ED)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 5:58 PM<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; To: <a href="mailto:openid-board@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Cc: 'Daniel Jacobson'<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: [OpenID board] OpenID Update: Orientation Briefing
Feedback<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; OIDF Board Members<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Yesterday the new members of the OpenID Board of Directors
received an<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; orientation briefing on many of the plans and priorities we will
discuss<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; on<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; our first meeting Jan 20th. While not an official meeting, the
agenda<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; previewed some of key issues the new board will consider as well
as info<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; for<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; our budget development and committee process for 2010. &nbsp;The
relevant<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; content<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; from the orientation briefing will be updated and included as part
of the<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; background material for the teleconference on the 20th.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; For your information:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; One of the suggestions that came out of that discussion was a
suggestion<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; from Daniel Jacobson that the views of relying parties can be best<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; represented by the addition of a liaison on the executive
committee. &nbsp;It<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; was<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; suggested that this new role be similar to that of the
international and<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; technical community liaison positions. These &quot;non
officer&quot; positions are<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; part of the executive committee by virtue of board convention
established<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; last year rather than OIDF by laws.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Board Action Item:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Please let me know if you are unable to make the teleconference on
the<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; 20th<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; and, if desired, to whom you designate as your proxy.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Don Thibeau<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; don@OIDF.org<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Executive Director<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; The OpenID Foundation<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="http://openid.net" target="_blank">http://openid.net</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; board mailing list<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:board@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board"
target="_blank">http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; ________________________________<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; board mailing list<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:board@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board"
target="_blank">http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:board@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board"
target="_blank">http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; board mailing list<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:board@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href="http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board"
target="_blank">http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Chris Messina<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Open Web Advocate, Google<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Personal: <a href="http://factoryjoe.com" target="_blank">http://factoryjoe.com</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Follow me on Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/chrismessina"
target="_blank">http://twitter.com/chrismessina</a><br>
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&gt;<br>
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&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:board@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
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&gt;&gt; <a href="http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board"
target="_blank">http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:board@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href="http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board"
target="_blank">http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; board mailing list<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href="mailto:board@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href="http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board"
target="_blank">http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; board mailing list<br>
&gt; <a href="mailto:board@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
&gt; <a href="http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board"
target="_blank">http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
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