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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Welcome input from anyone on key take away bullet points we
might want to summarize as an overview. The fact that there are billions of
accounts across several major providers that can deliver a lot more than just
an authentication is probably not well understood yet, so that’s clearly an
important message. Also, as time progresses we’ll show how this table is
getting filled in by the OPs. Joseph’s initial version had past/present/future.
If we showed what this looked like a year ago, it should highlight the dramatic
expansion of the functionality and benefits.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'><br>
Brian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:navy'><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/0/10/254">Brian Kissel</a></span></b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:navy'>CEO, JanRain - </span></b><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333399'>WebID and Social Publishing
for User Engagement</span></i></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Email</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:navy'>: <a href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com"><span style='color:navy'>bkissel@janrain.com</span></a>
<b>Cell</b>: 503.866.4424 <b>Fax</b>: 503.296.5502<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net
[mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David
Recordon<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 06, 2009 9:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> openid-board@lists.openid.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenID board] [board-private] OP Matrix<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Moving this to the public list since broader feedback will
be useful as we clean up this information. :)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Like Chris, I'm interested in seeing how we can make this
information more actionable. What does this mean for a site owner when
they're choosing their "nascar"? Or as a user how does this
information help me choose my provider.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>--David<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Chris Messina <<a
href="mailto:chris.messina@gmail.com">chris.messina@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>In its current state, this matrix is likely to
confuse. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>As well "matrix" is not a word that I think will
make sense to many people.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>We currently see around 6% of our traffic going this page.
The next page they visit is Getting Started (<a
href="http://openid.net/add-openid/add-getting-started/" target="_blank">http://openid.net//add-openid/add-getting-started/</a>).
I think this kind of detailed information belongs on that page.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Concrete proposals:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>1. The matrix feels more like second-tier documentation...
while it is very valuable information, we should be careful about just adding
links and tabs to the website without longer term consideration. Can we provide
a link that reads "Learn more about current [OpenID provider
capability]" at the very bottom of the "Add OpenID" page?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>2. That matrix is full of information...! And ugly as heck.
It's worth cleaning it up if we're going to present it for public consumption.
Can we get Darrin or someone else with a design eye to take a crack at making
it public-presentable?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>3. Can we focus the take-aways from the matrix to a few
clear items? Specifically, I think saying who provides verified email, profile
data, and who has access to what number of active monthly users are the
operative bits of information. The current matrix weaves together technical
capabilities with stats that we can use to argue for adopting OpenID. At the
very least, we need to call out the stuff that makes the [business] case for
adopting OpenID in the first place, and THEN provide information that
developers can use.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Happy to provide more feedback, but I do not want to see
this matrix just thrown on the site because it's "data complete".<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Brian Kissel <<a
href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com" target="_blank">bkissel@janrain.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi
Guys,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>So
I think we’re ready to publish the OP matrix. John, can you find a
suitable place on the OIDF website to provide this text and link. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
text-indent:.5in'><b><span style='color:#1F497D'>Identity Provider Capability
Matrix </span></b><a
href="http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tNv5ZWQD5wzK4luDFn0anmw&output=html"
target="_blank">http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tNv5ZWQD5wzK4luDFn0anmw&output=html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>The following matrix attempts to
characterize the offerings of many of the user managed identity providers along
dimensions including user base description, identity services, address book and
feed services, security, data elements supported, and security
enhancements. Some of the attributes are subjective and qualitative in
nature and some data may be missing for certain providers. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Definitions, descriptions, and
clarifying notes for each element in the table are summarized in columns A and
B under the matrix.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>The intent of this document it to
share the significant progress being made by each of the major identity
providers in expanding and improving their offerings for the benefit of website
operators and end users. This will be updated at least quarterly by each
of the identity providers, so feel free to come back to find the latest
information.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>If there is additional
information you would like to see displayed in this matrix or you feel there
are errors, please provide comments below (hoping we can put a feedback tool
here so users can give us direct input).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Maybe
a good place would be a new top level nav entry on this page: <a
href="http://openid.net/add-openid/" target="_blank">http://openid.net/add-openid/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Insert
a new tab after “Getting Started” but before “Become an OpenID Provider” that
says “OpenID Provider Matrix” or something like that.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:navy'>Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:navy'><br>
Brian</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='color:navy'>___________</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='color:#1F497D'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='color:navy'><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/0/10/254"
target="_blank">Brian Kissel</a></span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='color:navy'>CEO, JanRain - </span><i><span style='color:#333399'>WebID
and Social Publishing for User Engagement</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:navy'>5331 SW Macadam Ave., Suite 375, Portland, OR 97239</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='color:navy'>Email</span></b><span style='color:navy'>: <a
href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:navy'>bkissel@janrain.com</span></a>
<b>Cell</b>: 503.866.4424 <b>Fax</b>: 503.296.5502</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Open Web Advocate<br>
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