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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>OK, I will wait on putting any of the 4 proposals into the
voting tool until the day before the election.&nbsp; Please send me the final
versions of each of your motions by next Thursday.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Cheers,</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:navy'><br>
Brian<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:navy'>==============<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Brian Kissel<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Cell: 503.866.4424<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Fax: 503.296.5502<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Nat Sakimura
[mailto:sakimura@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 16, 2009 9:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Brian Kissel<br>
<b>Cc:</b> board@openid.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenID board] [board-private] Reminder: OIDF BOD vote on
Nat's 4 spec process improvement motions<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Yes. <br>
<br>
The fourth one was modified as par discussion with David, though I also want to
hear what other people feels like. <br>
<br>
=nat<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Brian Kissel &lt;<a
href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com">bkissel@janrain.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>OK, so the first 3 were correct
as stated?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'>Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'><br>
Brian</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'>==============</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'>Brian Kissel</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'>Cell: 503.866.4424</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:navy'>Fax: 503.296.5502</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'> Nat Sakimura [mailto:<a href="mailto:sakimura@gmail.com"
target="_blank">sakimura@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 16, 2009 9:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Brian Kissel<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:board@openid.net" target="_blank">board@openid.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenID board] [board-private] Reminder: OIDF BOD vote on
Nat's 4 spec process improvement motions<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Yes. Preferably, not wiki (because it's a bit
too easy to edit...) but something like bbs with voting facility :-) <br>
<br>
Anyhow, here is my modified motion 4. <br>
<br>
<b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>BE IT RESOLVED that the members of OpenID
Foundation board have agreed to amend the OpenID process document to clarify
that no draft may claim OpenID trademark until it is ratified to be a
specification.</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p>On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Brian Kissel &lt;<a
href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com" target="_blank">bkissel@janrain.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

<p>Agreed, the wiki or something like it would be a better way to keep the
proposal and discussion in one organized space. Nat, what do you think?<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Brian<br>
==============<br>
Brian Kissel<br>
Cell: 503.866.4424<br>
Fax: 503.296.5502<br>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>From: <a href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net"
target="_blank">board-bounces@openid.net</a> [mailto:<a
href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net" target="_blank">board-bounces@openid.net</a>]
On Behalf Of Chris Messina<br>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 3:43 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:board@openid.net" target="_blank">board@openid.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] [board-private] Reminder: OIDF BOD vote on Nat's 4
spec process improvement motions<br>
<br>
Would be great if Nat would add this to the wiki -- if only to try out<br>
such a process and determine whether it works or not. I fear that<br>
we're losing a lot of context/detail/accuracy by posting these kinds<br>
of communications in multi-threaded emails.<br>
<br>
Chris<br>
<br>
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Brian Kissel &lt;<a
href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com" target="_blank">bkissel@janrain.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<br>
&gt; Nat, is there a more current version than this? &nbsp;The actual text of
your proposal, which I took from your email, was the text I was intending to
put into the board polling tool.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; If there is a more current version, please send it to me.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Cheers,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Brian<br>
&gt; ==============<br>
&gt; Brian Kissel<br>
&gt; Cell: 503.866.4424<br>
&gt; Fax: 503.296.5502<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: <a href="mailto:board-private-bounces@openid.net" target="_blank">board-private-bounces@openid.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:board-private-bounces@openid.net" target="_blank">board-private-bounces@openid.net</a>]
On Behalf Of David Recordon<br>
&gt; Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 3:36 PM<br>
&gt; To: <a href="mailto:board-private@openid.net" target="_blank">board-private@openid.net</a><br>
&gt; Cc: <a href="mailto:board@openid.net" target="_blank">board@openid.net</a><br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [board-private] Reminder: OIDF BOD vote on Nat's 4 spec
process improvement motions<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hey Brian,<br>
&gt; I don't believe this captures the latest motions that Nat made.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --David<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Jan 16, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Brian Kissel wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; When: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:00 AM-6:30 AM (GMT-08:00) Pacific<br>
&gt;&gt; Time (US &amp; Canada).<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; FYI, this is a reminder that the online vote for Nat's four motions<br>
&gt;&gt; will start on Friday Jan 23rd.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Followings are the proposed motions that I would like the board to<br>
&gt;&gt; consider. There are two types: one that can take effect immediately,<br>
&gt;&gt; and one that requires board and membership voting.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I. For immediate implementation of the current process:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; One of the obstacles that we have found during the process was that<br>
&gt;&gt; it was kind of hard to get the specs council to deliver the<br>
&gt;&gt; recommendation in a timely fashion. It has seen some improvement<br>
&gt;&gt; recently, but we want to make sure to continue it. Thus, I would<br>
&gt;&gt; like to propose the following:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; BE IT RESOLVED that the OIDF Committee Liason is directed to act as<br>
&gt;&gt; the coordinator for the specification council so that specification<br>
&gt;&gt; council create a recommendation for the membership about a formal<br>
&gt;&gt; working group proposal within 15 days of the complete proposal being<br>
&gt;&gt; circulated on <a href="mailto:specs@openid.net" target="_blank">specs@openid.net</a>
to comply to the current OpenID<br>
&gt;&gt; process.<br>
&gt;&gt; II. Improvements of curent porcess<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; As a longer term solution, I would like to propose the following<br>
&gt;&gt; three motions. The first two are to make sure the timely and<br>
&gt;&gt; effective response from the specs council, and the last one is to<br>
&gt;&gt; protect the OpenID(TM) as well as to make it easier to create a WG<br>
&gt;&gt; so that all the discussion will be done inside the WG and the output<br>
&gt;&gt; is IPR clean.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; BE IT RESOLVED that the members of OpenID Foundation board have<br>
&gt;&gt; agreed to amend the OpenID process document so that should the<br>
&gt;&gt; specifications council not create a recommendation for the<br>
&gt;&gt; membership about a formal working group proposal within 15 days of<br>
&gt;&gt; the complete proposal being circulated on <a
href="mailto:specs@openid.net" target="_blank">specs@openid.net</a>, then the<br>
&gt;&gt; proposal may proceed to a membership vote for approval.<br>
&gt;&gt; BE IT RESOLVED that the members of OpenID Foundation board have<br>
&gt;&gt; agreed to amend the OpenID process document so that should specs<br>
&gt;&gt; council members not participate in the discussion of two consecutive<br>
&gt;&gt; working group proposals, they will be deemed to have resigned, and<br>
&gt;&gt; new specs council members who are committed to participating in the<br>
&gt;&gt; process will be appointed to replace them.<br>
&gt;&gt; BE IT RESOLVED that the members of OpenID Foundation board have<br>
&gt;&gt; agreed to amend the OpenID process document to clarify that no draft<br>
&gt;&gt; may claim OpenID trademark until it is ratified to be an<br>
&gt;&gt; implementor's draft status or full specification status.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
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&gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:board-private@openid.net" target="_blank">board-private@openid.net</a><br>
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