That's great!<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>=nat<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Chris Messina <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chris.messina@gmail.com">chris.messina@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I've uploaded a screencast that demonstrates how to create a new page<br>
using the template that I created:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/18443/new-page.mov" target="_blank">http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/18443/new-page.mov</a><br>
<br>
Incidentally, if any of you would like to create templated pages, just<br>
create a page as you normally would and then give it a tag called<br>
'template'.<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Chris<br>
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On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Nat Sakimura <<a href="mailto:sakimura@gmail.com">sakimura@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Skitch.com registration was rather nice. Only, if they could accept my<br>
> OpenID as a screen name, that was perfect.<br>
><br>
> Having said that, I could not figure out how to create the template...<br>
> I would love to learn.<br>
><br>
> =nat<br>
><br>
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Brian Kissel <<a href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com">bkissel@janrain.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Excellent Chris, great start, thanks.<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>><br>
>> Brian<br>
>> ==============<br>
>> Brian Kissel<br>
>> Cell: 503.866.4424<br>
>> Fax: 503.296.5502<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net">board-bounces@openid.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net">board-bounces@openid.net</a>] On Behalf<br>
>> Of Chris Messina<br>
>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 2:02 PM<br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
>> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Smoothing the OpenID Process - notification of<br>
>> 7 day discussion period<br>
>><br>
>> I have created a template that can be tweaked that could be used for<br>
>> this, and other votes:<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://openid.pbwiki.com/Call-for-Vote" target="_blank">https://openid.pbwiki.com/Call-for-Vote</a><br>
>><br>
>> When you create a new page for a vote, you can use this template by<br>
>> choosing it from the list of templates:<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="http://skitch.com/factoryjoe/bbpqa/openid-wiki-create-a-new-page" target="_blank">http://skitch.com/factoryjoe/bbpqa/openid-wiki-create-a-new-page</a><br>
>><br>
>> If you have ideas to improve the template, please do so. I took my<br>
>> best stab at it, but it could definitely use some massaging.<br>
>><br>
>> It might be useful for Nat to create a new page for this current vote<br>
>> and fill out the template to see if we're missing anything.<br>
>><br>
>> Chris<br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Brian Kissel <<a href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com">bkissel@janrain.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > This motion has been seconded by Mike, Raj, Eric, Brian, and Gary.<br>
>> > Therefore we're starting the 7 day notification and discussion clock for<br>
>> > an<br>
>> > online board-only vote. There will be a separate vote for each motion.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > If anyone has suggestions on how to ensure that the discussion and<br>
>> > voting<br>
>> > process complies with our bylaws, is fair, open, and efficient, please<br>
>> > provide your input. Given that board meetings are only every six weeks<br>
>> > and<br>
>> > that historically it's been hard to get a large percentage of our board<br>
>> > members to participate on calls, I'd like to suggest that we try to do<br>
>> > more<br>
>> > routine administrative votes via our board voting tool. If, during the<br>
>> > notification and discussion period, we determine that the issues are too<br>
>> > involved or complex to adequately decide via an online vote, we can<br>
>> > always<br>
>> > cancel the online vote and defer the vote until the next regularly<br>
>> > scheduled<br>
>> > board meeting. Does that sound reasonable to everyone?<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > One thing that I haven't seen is how long we should keep the polls open<br>
>> > for<br>
>> > each vote. For the board nominations and elections, it was 2 weeks,<br>
>> > which<br>
>> > made sense. However, one of our goals in 2009 is to be more timely in<br>
>> > our<br>
>> > execution. So I'd like to suggest that the default period for an online<br>
>> > board vote is 7 days or until the required majority has been reached.<br>
>> > For<br>
>> > example, on the International Liaison vote, we already have 10 yes votes<br>
>> > and<br>
>> > zero no votes in one day, so I believe that this motion has passed.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Looking forward to feedback from others.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Cheers,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Brian<br>
>> ><br>
>> > ==============<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Brian Kissel<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Cell: 503.866.4424<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Fax: 503.296.5502<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > From: <a href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net">board-bounces@openid.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net">board-bounces@openid.net</a>] On<br>
>> > Behalf<br>
>> > Of Raj Mata<br>
>> > Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 11:14 AM<br>
>> > To: <a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
>> > Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Smoothing the OpenID Process<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > +1<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > ________________________________<br>
>> ><br>
>> > From: <a href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net">board-bounces@openid.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net">board-bounces@openid.net</a>] On<br>
>> > Behalf<br>
>> > Of Eric Sachs<br>
>> > Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 11:09 AM<br>
>> > To: <a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
>> > Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Smoothing the OpenID Process<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Also agreed, thx Nat<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Mike Jones<br>
>> > <<a href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</a>><br>
>> > wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > These motions all make sense to me - particularly since creation of the<br>
>> > PAPE<br>
>> > working group was delayed for so long due to specs council issues and<br>
>> > I'm<br>
>> > watching the same play out with the current proposals. Having been<br>
>> > there<br>
>> > when we came up with the idea of the specs council, the idea behind it<br>
>> > was<br>
>> > for it to provide useful feedback cutting across the different<br>
>> > specifications while proposals were being discussed and to make a timely<br>
>> > recommendation once a proposal was formally submitted - NOT to be an<br>
>> > impediment to the creation of working groups or a hurdle that proposals<br>
>> > had<br>
>> > to clear.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Thanks for taking the time to write these up, Nat. They should make the<br>
>> > specs council reality more closely match the intent, and substantially<br>
>> > improve the present situation.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Thanks,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > -- Mike<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > From: <a href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net">board-bounces@openid.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net">board-bounces@openid.net</a>] On<br>
>> > Behalf<br>
>> > Of Brian Kissel<br>
>> > Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 9:17 AM<br>
>> > To: <a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
>> > Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Smoothing the OpenID Process<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Nat, thank you for your proactive efforts to help improve the<br>
>> > effectiveness<br>
>> > and efficiency of our spec process. As I understand it, the board needs<br>
>> > to<br>
>> > vote on your motions, then present to the membership for approval. I<br>
>> > second<br>
>> > all four of Nat's motions below for a vote by the board.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Hopefully we'll have the board polling tool working this week, so look<br>
>> > for<br>
>> > an email notification for pending board votes on each of these motions.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > If others would like to discuss Nat's proposals before the vote, please<br>
>> > provide your thoughts to the group.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Cheers,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Brian<br>
>> ><br>
>> > ==============<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Brian Kissel<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Cell: 503.866.4424<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Fax: 503.296.5502<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > From: <a href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net">board-bounces@openid.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net">board-bounces@openid.net</a>] On<br>
>> > Behalf<br>
>> > Of Nat Sakimura<br>
>> > Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 12:01 AM<br>
>> > To: <a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
>> > Subject: [OpenID board] Smoothing the OpenID Process<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Hi.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > After having worked through PAPE 1.0 spec process, as well as some other<br>
>> > spec proposals, I noticed that there can be several things that we can<br>
>> > do to<br>
>> > smooth the process. I think they were worthwhile excercises to find out<br>
>> > these glitches.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Followings are the proposed motions that I would like the board to<br>
>> > consider.<br>
>> > There are two types: one that can take effect immediately, and one that<br>
>> > requires board and membership voting.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I. For immediate implementation of the current process:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > One of the obstacles that we have found during the process was that it<br>
>> > was<br>
>> > kind of hard to get the specs council to deliver the recommendation in a<br>
>> > timely fashion. It has seen some improvement recently, but we want to<br>
>> > make<br>
>> > sure to continue it. Thus, I would like to propose the following:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > BE IT RESOLVED that the OIDF Committee Liason is directed to act as the<br>
>> > coordinator for the specification council so that specification council<br>
>> > create a recommendation for the membership about a formal working group<br>
>> > proposal within 15 days of the complete proposal being circulated on<br>
>> > <a href="mailto:specs@openid.net">specs@openid.net</a> to comply to the current OpenID process.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > II. Improvements of curent porcess<br>
>> ><br>
>> > As a longer term solution, I would like to propose the following three<br>
>> > motions. The first two are to make sure the timely and effective<br>
>> > response<br>
>> > from the specs council, and the last one is to protect the OpenID(TM) as<br>
>> > well as to make it easier to create a WG so that all the discussion will<br>
>> > be<br>
>> > done inside the WG and the output is IPR clean.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > BE IT RESOLVED that the members of OpenID Foundation board have agreed<br>
>> > to<br>
>> > amend the OpenID process document so that should the specifications<br>
>> > council<br>
>> > not create a recommendation for the membership about a formal working<br>
>> > group<br>
>> > proposal within 15 days of the complete proposal being circulated on<br>
>> > <a href="mailto:specs@openid.net">specs@openid.net</a>, then the proposal may proceed to a membership vote for<br>
>> > approval.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > BE IT RESOLVED that the members of OpenID Foundation board have agreed<br>
>> > to<br>
>> > amend the OpenID process document so that should specs council members<br>
>> > not<br>
>> > participate in the discussion of two consecutive working group<br>
>> > proposals,<br>
>> > they will be deemed to have resigned, and new specs council members who<br>
>> > are<br>
>> > committed to participating in the process will be appointed to replace<br>
>> > them.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > BE IT RESOLVED that the members of OpenID Foundation board have agreed<br>
>> > to<br>
>> > amend the OpenID process document to clarify that no draft may claim<br>
>> > OpenID<br>
>> > trademark until it is ratified to be an implementor's draft status or<br>
>> > full<br>
>> > specification status.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Please note that these consitute the core decision for IPR and process,<br>
>> > so<br>
>> > it will have to go through the membership vote as well after creating<br>
>> > the<br>
>> > actual errata.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Cheers,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > =nat<br>
>> ><br>
>> > --<br>
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