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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Brett, I appreciate Liberty&#8217;s
commitment to openness -- the irony I was referring to is that &#8220;Open&#8221;
is part of the OpenID Foundation&#8217;s name.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Scott, I think this is important enough
(and so does Nat) &#8211; can I ask for it to be placed on the agenda of the
next board call?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>=Drummond <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
board-bounces@openid.net [mailto:board-bounces@openid.net] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Brett McDowell<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August 21, 2008
10:03 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> board@openid.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [OpenID board]
Location of minutes (and open board meetings)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Although I appreciate
having one of our &quot;best practices&quot; highlighted here, I have to say
that there is nothing ironic about Liberty Alliance's commitment to openness or
our leadership in that regard.&nbsp; <br>
<br clear=all>
|| Brett McDowell | <a href="http://www.projectliberty.org">www.projectliberty.org</a>
| +1.413.652.1248<br>
<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Drummond Reed &lt;<a
href="mailto:drummond.reed@cordance.net">drummond.reed@cordance.net</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Board members:<br>
<br>
Nat Sakimura makes the point to us below (and to me offline) that we have<br>
not been making it clear where the board meeting minutes are posted after<br>
they have been approved. Also, a two-week lag before approval and posting is<br>
a long time, especially for active topics.<br>
<br>
And a third point Nat makes is particularly ironic: the Liberty Alliance<br>
holds open board meetings (any Liberty member may attend) while the OpenID<br>
Foundation holds closed board meetings. The exception is executive sessions,<br>
of course, but Liberty schedules those separately.<br>
<br>
I think we strongly consider the same policy.<br>
<br>
=Drummond<br>
<br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: <a href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net">board-bounces@openid.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net">board-bounces@openid.net</a>]
On Behalf<br>
&gt; Of Nat Sakimura<br>
&gt; Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 6:54 PM<br>
&gt; To: <a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
&gt; Cc: &lt;<a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Final Agenda for 8/14/2008 ...<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks Drummond.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Actially, I was looking for the past minutes as well and could not<br>
&gt; find it so I have asked the question.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =nat@Mt.Asama via iPhone<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On 2008/08/16, at 10:29, &quot;Drummond Reed&quot; &lt;<a
href="mailto:drummond.reed@cordance.net">drummond.reed@cordance.net</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Nat, I'm not the Secretary (Martin Atkins is) but Mart was on<br>
&gt; &gt; vacation so I<br>
&gt; &gt; took them for this meeting. Our standard procedure is to post them<br>
&gt; &gt; to the<br>
&gt; &gt; board's private list after the meeting (which I did) and then have
the<br>
&gt; &gt; approved by the board before posting to the public list.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I'll deter to Scott about whether he could post the notes to the<br>
&gt; &gt; public list<br>
&gt; &gt; before approval.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; =Drummond<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; From: <a href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net">board-bounces@openid.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:board-bounces@openid.net">board-bounces@openid.net</a>]
On<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Behalf<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Of <a href="mailto:sakimura@gmail.com">sakimura@gmail.com</a><br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 6:17 PM<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; To: <a href="mailto:david@sixapart.com">david@sixapart.com</a>; <a
href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Final Agenda for 8/14/2008 ...<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Under which URL the meeting notes are posted?<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; On 8/14/08, David Recordon &lt;<a
href="mailto:drecordon@sixapart.com">drecordon@sixapart.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Hi Eddy,<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Board calls are generally not open for anyone to join.
&nbsp;Notes are<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; posted after every meeting and if they're a specific topic
you'd<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; like<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; to see on the agenda that can happen with a few weeks notice.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; --David<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; On Aug 13, 2008, at 4:18 PM, Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi Scott,<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Is there a way to join this and how? I'm not quite
familiar yet<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; with<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the foundation internals...<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Regards<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Signer: &nbsp; &nbsp;Eddy Nigg, StartCom Ltd.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Jabber: &nbsp; &nbsp;<a
href="mailto:startcom@startcom.org">startcom@startcom.org</a><br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Blog: &nbsp; &nbsp;Join the Revolution!<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Phone: &nbsp; &nbsp;+1.213.341.0390<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Scott Kveton:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Here is the final agenda for the call tomorrow ...
FYI:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * General business (minutes approved, finance update)<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * Vote on mission/vision statement - Scott/Dick<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * Form &amp; elect an executive committee - Scott<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * Discuss short-term action items - Scott<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * Update on membership/election tools - Bill<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * Recruiting committee update - Scott/Raj<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * Board Development Committee creation - Scott<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * Trademark committee update - Raj/David<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * Output of Johannes' work re: strategy - Johannes<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; - Scott<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; board mailing list<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board"
target="_blank">http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board</a><br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; board mailing list<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board"
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