<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">So magic happened and it has been corrected by some mysterious force ... well, as long as the mysterious force does whatever it does the way it seems to have done it this time, that's great! ;-)<div><br></div><div>BTW, I think it's great that they are doing this -- I just think we don't even want to start talking about this such as trademark usage policy as long as product releases aren't even correctly attributed ...</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 2008/05/10, at 7:03, Bill Washburn wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Johannes,<br>This morning it appears Carsten was right. Indeed, it has been changed (and the last paragraph as well). Now the statement reads...<br><br><span id="intelliTXT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 191); ">On Monday, JanRain, a leader in the OpenID community will introduce a new "strong authentication" option to it's myOpenID.com users. This new strong authentication is named<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><strong>CallVerifID</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and could replace access keys and keycard devices over time. CallVerifID uses the PhoneFactor service from Positive Networks.</span><br><br>In general, I'm happy to make contacts if/when it's needed and egregious enough to warrant concrete concern. I also don't imagine this to be anything that JanRain team members would assert. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>cheers,<br>-bill<br><br><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">----- Original Message ----<br>From: Carsten Pötter <<a href="mailto:sccpffm@gmail.com">sccpffm@gmail.com</a>><br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br>Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 11:45:13 PM<br>Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Who manages OpenID?<br><br>Mashable refers to an article on<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.centernetworks.com/openid-callverifid-strong-authentication">Center Networks</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>which has been changed by now (it still has an error in the last paragraph about ID Selector being launched by OpenID). Center Networks also had an<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.centernetworks.com/openid-launches-id-selector">article</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>on ID Selector which made the claim.<br><br>I haven't seen similar claims anywhere else so far, though, so I also don't think it is intentional by JanRain.<br><br>Carsten<br><br><div class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 1:56 AM, Johannes Ernst <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jernst@netmesh.us" target="_blank" href="mailto:jernst@netmesh.us">jernst@netmesh.us</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; "><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://mashable.com/2008/05/09/callverfid/">http://mashable.com/2008/05/09/callverfid/</a><br><br> On Monday, Janrain, the group managing the OpenID protocol will announce a new "strong authentication" option for Web sites utilizing the OpenID login option. This new strong authentication is named CallVerifID and could replace access keys and keycard devices over time. CallVerifID uses the PhoneFactor service from Positive Networks.<br><br>This is a very consistent positioning of JanRain having the OpenID Foundation's role, and it is obviously wrong. Note I do not mean to say that that is intentional by anybody -- but I have seen it often enough now that I think the foundation should make a concerted effort to clarify its own role, as well as the role of the vendors that are members of the foundation.<br><br>Bill: how do you feel about calling all of the guys up who keep writing this?<br><font color="#888888"><br><br><br><br>Johannes Ernst<br>NetMesh Inc.<br><br><br></font><br> <br> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://netmesh.info/jernst">http://netmesh.info/jernst</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>board mailing list<br><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:board@openid.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board">http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board</a><br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.notsorelevant.com">http://www.notsorelevant.com</a><br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://spreadopenid.org">http://spreadopenid.org</a></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>board mailing list<br><a href="mailto:board@openid.net">board@openid.net</a><br><a href="http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board">http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board</a><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div>Johannes Ernst</div><div>NetMesh Inc.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><span><img height="16" width="16" src="cid:A9F79C49-09FA-4C14-96D2-867562EE1199@hsd1.ca.comcast.net."></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "> </span><span><img height="16" width="36" src="cid:FE089E56-C1C3-471D-BAA7-28EEC60F099C@hsd1.ca.comcast.net."></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "> <a href="http://netmesh.info/jernst">http://netmesh.info/jernst</a></span> </div><br></div></body></html>