[OpenID board] Gluu OBJECTS to the approval of the OpenID Connect Federation Spec

Mike Schwartz mike at gluu.org
Tue Jul 17 15:29:59 UTC 2018


Mike,

I disagree. As you can see by the lack of comments on the mailing list 
with regard to the federation spec, there is no critical mass of 
interested parties.  And asking people who are interested in the 
federation spec to join every OpenID Connect WG meeting on the off 
chance that the federation spec will be discussed is not efficient.

Can you point to any meeting minutes where substantive discussion of the 
content happened on the call?

- Mike

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Michael Schwartz
Gluu
Founder / CEO
mike at gluu.org
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nynymike/

On 2018-07-17 09:59, Mike Jones wrote:
> I know that a number of people actively contributing to European
> federations, such as NORDUnet, have joined the working group, at
> Roland's suggestion, to participate in the discussions.  If there are
> others who you think are not members and should be, please invite them
> to join.  Participation in OpenID working groups is free.  OpenID
> working groups operate in public, so the conversation is hardly
> "buried".
> 
> Being in an OpenID working group means that the specification will be
> freely available to all to implement, with contributors all making a
> patent promise.  Bringing the patent promises into effect is the
> primary point of the current vote at
> https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/146.  I encourage everyone
> who's interested in OpenID Connect Federation to participate in the
> IPR vote.
> 
>  				Best wishes,
> 				-- Mike
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Schwartz <mike at gluu.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 10:51 AM
> To: Mike Jones <Michael.Jones at microsoft.com>
> Cc: openid-board at lists.openid.net
> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Gluu OBJECTS to the approval of the OpenID
> Connect Federation Spec
> 
> 
> Ok, but I think discussion of this spec should be more comprehensive.
> It would help if the discussion was more public so we could get a
> quorum of interested parties. As the conversation is buried in the
> OpenID Connect WG meetings, it's hard to get the right people
> involved, and has the result of reducing participation.
> 
> - Mike
> 
> 
> ------------------------
> Michael Schwartz
> Gluu
> Founder / CEO
> mike at gluu.org
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/nynymike/
> 
> On 2018-07-17 09:28, Mike Jones wrote:
>> Mike - your statement that "The effort to reach consensus was
>> NEGLIGIBLE to zero" is incorrect.  Indeed, the editors acknowledged
>> your and Filip's comments in their reply
>> http://lists.openid.net/pipermail/openid-specs-ab/Week-of-Mon-20180611
>> /006794.html and agreed to address them in the next revision.  That
>> will happen after the current vote to grant IPR protections to
>> implementers of the specification concludes.  The purpose of this vote
>> is described in the reply
>> http://lists.openid.net/pipermail/openid-specs-ab/Week-of-Mon-20180611
>> /006795.html, and indeed, in the public blog post about the IPR review
>> http://openid.net/2018/06/08/public-review-period-for-openid-connect-federation-specification-started/.
>> 
>> Thank you again for taking the time to review the specification.
>> 
>> 				-- Mike
>> 
>> P.S.  A vote against Implementer's Draft status essentially boils down
>> to "I do not want developers to have IPR protections when implementing
>> this draft".
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: board <openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net> On Behalf Of Mike
>> Schwartz
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 10:01 AM
>> To: openid-board at lists.openid.net
>> Subject: [OpenID board] Gluu OBJECTS to the approval of the OpenID
>> Connect Federation Spec
>> 
>> Gluu OBJECTS to the approval of the OpenID Federation spec. While we
>> like the direction of the work, NONE of our comments have been either
>> addressed or mitigated. The effort to reach consensus was NEGLIGIBLE
>> to zero.
>> 
>> - Mike
>> 
>> --
>> ------------------------
>> Michael Schwartz
>> Gluu
>> Founder / CEO
>> mike at gluu.org
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/nynymike/
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