[OpenID board] Connect WG

David Recordon recordond at gmail.com
Sat Jun 5 05:24:51 UTC 2010

I never agreed to withdraw the proposal. I understood that there was  
momentum for it to happen elsewhere but as you know strongly disagreed  
with that approach.


On Jun 4, 2010, at 10:08 PM, Dick Hardt <dick.hardt at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Allen
> Thanks for the response. My point in this email is that at the end  
> of the meeting, it was agreed that Connect was not going to be done  
> in the OIDF, which means the WG proposal would be withdrawn. With  
> you and David agreeing on the specs council call that Connect should  
> be a WG, that goes counter to what we had concluded at the meeting.
> Note that I was not the one to suggest that Connect was not going to  
> be in the OIDF, but since that was what everyone had agreed to,  
> there was no point in talking about how it would be done in the OIDF.
> -- Dick
> On 2010-06-04, at 8:58 PM, Allen Tom wrote:
>> Hi Dick,
>> Although I might not have expressed this as strongly as I should  
>> have last Friday, I believe that we should be working on an  
>> identity layer for OAuth2 within the OIDF.
>> Yahoo will definitely be implementing this, and I would expect that  
>> all other OAuth SPs to do the same. It would definitely simplify  
>> things if we could have a single standard interface that can do  
>> everything that OpenID 2.0 +AX+Hybrid can do today, and also be  
>> extensible to be used for future services and even for OP specific  
>> proprietary APIs as well.
>> I expect that an OAuth based identity layer would be widely  
>> implemented and far more widely used than OpenID, making OpenID  
>> largely irrelevant. Therefore, I think it's in the OIDFs best  
>> interest to back this imitative.
>> However, on Friday, I did get the impression that there is not  
>> sufficent consensus to move forward. If that's still the case, then  
>> there's no point forcing the issue. The work is going to get done  
>> either way.
>> Hope that clarifies things
>> Allen
>> On Jun 4, 2010, at 7:24 PM, Dick Hardt <dick.hardt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> David, Chris, Joseph, Allen
>>> When we met last Friday to discuss how Connect and v.Next would  
>>> work together, the four of you had agreed that it would be best  
>>> doing the Connect work outside the OIDF. I had come to the meeting  
>>> to talk about how we would merge or align the efforts, but since  
>>> there was consensus to do it outside, we did not discuss.
>>> From actions I have seen today, it seems that there has been a  
>>> change since then and that you are planning on working on Connect  
>>> per the original charter. As emailed separately, I have concerns  
>>> with the charter as drafted.
>>> I am very disappointed that I learn about your change in mind by  
>>> seeing postings on public mailing lists.
>>> WTF?
>>> -- Dick

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