[OpenID board] Email listservs

Brian Kissel bkissel at janrain.com
Sat Jan 30 02:51:55 UTC 2010

Great observations and questions John.  I certainly don't have all the answers either, but here's a suggestion and look forward to feedback from others.

We should have dedicated mailing lists for each of the Committees as listed on https://openid.pbworks.com/Committees   People should only volunteer to be on those committees if they are really willing to put in some effort, not just passively monitor a listserv and voice an opinion occasionally.  The folks who are officially on the committee would then also be on the dedicated committee mailing list.

Each committee can determine what unrestricted mailing lists they would also like to use to solicit input and feedback from the overall community.  For example, if the Adoption Committee wants to use an unrestricted User Experience mailing list to get lots of market feedback on UX, that committee chair should set up and manage that list.

If we want our committees to assume more leadership and responsibility for their respective areas, I think they should be limited in size, probably to no more than 10 or 15 members each.  But the unrestricted lists could have hundreds or thousands of participants (if we can be so lucky).

With respect to getting each of the committees organized with a well defined list of members and the chair/vice chair, I think motivated people like yourself should take the lead and make a proposal for the group(s) you are interested in being on and potentially serving in a chair/vice chair capacity.

We have done that with the Adoption Committee<https://openid.pbworks.com/Adoption-Committee> and should have finalized our initial membership and leadership by Monday.  Once the core group and leadership is defined, others may offer to join or the group may want to proactively recruit specific members whose participation they think would be beneficial.  We can always iterate from that starting point.  So, I would support your approach of declaring yourself Chair pro tem of a committee you're interested in and organize an election to replace yourself.  If no one else shows up, it's yours ;-)

There are a list of potential members and chair/vice-chairs for each committee at https://openid.pbworks.com/Committees  so I'd recommend that everyone who is on one of those lists exert some leadership if you want to have that role going forward, as John is advocating below.



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I thought that David was the keeper of the lists.

I don't have any plan to move them, though would help with that if the board makes that decision.

I observed that there are existing lists like Legal and security that could be used to get things started, and moved if needed.

I joined Legal and discovered that there are over 140 members of the list.

On the upside the business of the committee would not be secret.

I can take the lead on getting one of the committees going to elect co-chairs.

However if as you indicated the Committee elects its own chairs, and any committee member can run,  I am not certain that the outcome of having board members as chairs is necessarily the likely outcome.

I am assuming that the committees are not WG and don't have IPR rules.

So anyone who joins the list is a member?

I recall that when the Security list was set up originally, Tony was appointed chair so there was no real election process.
The list never saw much use.

If these are real committees and not just random comment email lists we probably need some basic guidelines on the rules for board committees.

There seems to be some inertia to getting started.

I am one of the new people on the board,  I don't have a good feel for how committees functioned or not with previous boards.

I am tempted to pick a committee declare myself Chair pro tem and organize an election to replace myself.

This process seems to have stalled for the last week.

John B.

On 2010-01-29, at 10:57 PM, Brian Kissel wrote:

Hi John,

What did you resolve for managing mailing lists going forward?  Are you advocating moving to Google lists, something else, or staying with what we have today.  In any case, Global Inventures and the Executive Director should have administrative access to all mailing lists for the benefit of continuity.

>From the mailing lists we have right now...


[no description available]


[no description available]


General OpenID discussions relating to Europe


OpenID General Discussion


Legal discussion around OpenID


OpenID marketing


Discussion around security and anti-phishing tactics


OpenID Specifications Discussions


Specifications Council


Contract Exchange for dynamic exchange of legal contract among the parties.


PAPE specification mailing list


User Interface Working Group Specs list


OpenID user experience

I'd like to see us have the following to start.  We can add/delete/modify as necessary as the Committees come up to speed and determine what their respective needs are.

*         Board
*         Board Private
*         Executive Committee (new)
*         General
*         Adoption (if we can migrate the Marketing and User Experience lists over to this list, that would be great, if not we'll just let sit dormant unless/until the Adoption Committee requests them)
*         Government (new)
*         Security
*         Technology (new)
*         Legal
*         International Outreach (new)
*         Certification (new)

Are people actively using EU?  If so, we should roll that into International Outreach unless the International Outreach Committee wants to keep this separate list.

Will leave it to the Technical Committee to determine what lists they want (specs, specs-council, specs-cx, etc.)



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