[OpenID board] Email listservs

John Ehrig jehrig at inventures.com
Mon Feb 1 20:49:56 UTC 2010


Another one for Darin....

 

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From: Brian Kissel [mailto:bkissel at janrain.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 7:06 PM
To: openid-board at lists.openid.net; Don Thibeau (OIDF ED); John Ehrig
Cc: OpenID Board (public)
Subject: RE: [OpenID board] Email listservs

 

Sorry Pam, I thought it was open to anyone.  John Ehrig, who has
administrative ownership of the wiki?

 

Cheers,


Brian

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From: openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net
[mailto:openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Pam Dingle
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 6:57 PM
To: openid-board at lists.openid.net
Cc: OpenID Board (public)
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Email listservs

 

It would be easier for the motivated people to add themselves to the
list memberships and contribute to the wiki if the owner of the
workspace would graciously approve outstanding access requests pretty
please whoever you are...

 

 

On 2010-01-29, at 7:51 PM, Brian Kissel wrote:

 

Great observations and questions John.  I certainly don't have all the
answers either, but here's a suggestion and look forward to feedback
from others.

 

We should have dedicated mailing lists for each of the Committees as
listed on https://openid.pbworks.com/Committees   People should only
volunteer to be on those committees if they are really willing to put in
some effort, not just passively monitor a listserv and voice an opinion
occasionally.  The folks who are officially on the committee would then
also be on the dedicated committee mailing list.

 

Each committee can determine what unrestricted mailing lists they would
also like to use to solicit input and feedback from the overall
community.  For example, if the Adoption Committee wants to use an
unrestricted User Experience mailing list to get lots of market feedback
on UX, that committee chair should set up and manage that list.

 

If we want our committees to assume more leadership and responsibility
for their respective areas, I think they should be limited in size,
probably to no more than 10 or 15 members each.  But the unrestricted
lists could have hundreds or thousands of participants (if we can be so
lucky).

 

With respect to getting each of the committees organized with a well
defined list of members and the chair/vice chair, I think motivated
people like yourself should take the lead and make a proposal for the
group(s) you are interested in being on and potentially serving in a
chair/vice chair capacity.


We have done that with the Adoption Committee
<https://openid.pbworks.com/Adoption-Committee>  and should have
finalized our initial membership and leadership by Monday.  Once the
core group and leadership is defined, others may offer to join or the
group may want to proactively recruit specific members whose
participation they think would be beneficial.  We can always iterate
from that starting point.  So, I would support your approach of
declaring yourself Chair pro tem of a committee you're interested in and
organize an election to replace yourself.  If no one else shows up, it's
yours ;-)


There are a list of potential members and chair/vice-chairs for each
committee at https://openid.pbworks.com/Committees  so I'd recommend
that everyone who is on one of those lists exert some leadership if you
want to have that role going forward, as John is advocating below.

 

Cheers,


Brian

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From: openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net
[mailto:openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of John Bradley
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 6:21 PM
To: openid-board at lists.openid.net
Cc: OpenID Board (public)
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Email listservs

 

Brian,

 

I thought that David was the keeper of the lists.

 

I don't have any plan to move them, though would help with that if the
board makes that decision.

 

I observed that there are existing lists like Legal and security that
could be used to get things started, and moved if needed.

 

I joined Legal and discovered that there are over 140 members of the
list.

 

On the upside the business of the committee would not be secret.

 

I can take the lead on getting one of the committees going to elect
co-chairs.

 

However if as you indicated the Committee elects its own chairs, and any
committee member can run,  I am not certain that the outcome of having
board members as chairs is necessarily the likely outcome.

 

I am assuming that the committees are not WG and don't have IPR rules.

 

So anyone who joins the list is a member?

 

I recall that when the Security list was set up originally, Tony was
appointed chair so there was no real election process.

The list never saw much use.

 

If these are real committees and not just random comment email lists we
probably need some basic guidelines on the rules for board committees. 

 

There seems to be some inertia to getting started.   

 

I am one of the new people on the board,  I don't have a good feel for
how committees functioned or not with previous boards.

 

I am tempted to pick a committee declare myself Chair pro tem and
organize an election to replace myself.

 

This process seems to have stalled for the last week.

 

John B.

 

On 2010-01-29, at 10:57 PM, Brian Kissel wrote:





Hi John,

 

What did you resolve for managing mailing lists going forward?  Are you
advocating moving to Google lists, something else, or staying with what
we have today.  In any case, Global Inventures and the Executive
Director should have administrative access to all mailing lists for the
benefit of continuity.

 

>From the mailing lists we have right now...

 

board <http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board> 

[no description available]

Code <http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-code> 

[no description available]

eu <http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-eu> 

General OpenID discussions relating to Europe

general <http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-general> 

OpenID General Discussion

legal <http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-legal> 

Legal discussion around OpenID

marketing <http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-marketing> 

OpenID marketing

security <http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-security> 

Discussion around security and anti-phishing tactics

specs <http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs> 

OpenID Specifications Discussions

specs-council
<http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs-council> 

Specifications Council

Specs-cx <http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs-cx> 

Contract Exchange for dynamic exchange of legal contract among the
parties.

specs-pape <http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs-pape> 

PAPE specification mailing list

Specs-ui <http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs-ui> 

User Interface Working Group Specs list

user-experience
<http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-user-experience> 

OpenID user experience

 

I'd like to see us have the following to start.  We can
add/delete/modify as necessary as the Committees come up to speed and
determine what their respective needs are.

 

*         Board

*         Board Private

*         Executive Committee (new)

*         General

*         Adoption (if we can migrate the Marketing and User Experience
lists over to this list, that would be great, if not we'll just let sit
dormant unless/until the Adoption Committee requests them)

*         Government (new)

*         Security

*         Technology (new)

*         Legal

*         International Outreach (new)

*         Certification (new)

 

Are people actively using EU?  If so, we should roll that into
International Outreach unless the International Outreach Committee wants
to keep this separate list.

 

Will leave it to the Technical Committee to determine what lists they
want (specs, specs-council, specs-cx, etc.)

 

Cheers,


Brian

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