[OpenID board] Status of the OpenID Foundation Europe

Henrik Biering hb at netamia.com
Wed Nov 25 17:04:54 UTC 2009

I am extremely happy to see Don's response to the problems outlined in 
this thread.
Definitely some support from the OIDF is needed to get Europe on track.

Prague in late April seems fine from a climatic point of view, but I am 
not sure that an OpenID seminar or workshop should be an integral part 
of the Catalyst Conference. I think the matters prospective large  RP's  
want to have resolved before kick-off are much more basic  business 
issues: "Whats in it for me?", "How will it impact my existing 
userbase", "Did anyone else do it with success ($$)?", and in some cases 
"Is it secure?" They need a cookbook rather than a palette of 100 
options, which is why I think is is important to have the UI and AX 
specs settled asap. It is also a question of whether the location(s) 
should rather be selected based on the concentration of potential RP's. 
Maybe now is a good time to start gauging the interest in various countries.

As soon as you take OpenID to assurance levels higher than 0, we have 
common legislative issues and industry associations within Europe that 
makes a coordinated effort feasible in some respects. Whether or not a 
separate organization is mandated or not should be resolved as part of 
the work proposed by Don. In general an organization has a purpose if it 
facilitates the work that needs to be done rather than getting in the 
way of it (btw. thats why OpenID-DK is organized as a network rather 
than a legal entity).


Santosh Rajan skrev:
> PS: Please don't argue about "politics" and "DNS". OpenID should be 
> independant of DNS. here are some examples. 
> 1) My OpenID http://santosh.in
> 2) somebody elses OpenID http://example.jp
> 3) another example http://example.com/joe
> In all the cases above you can see that we are politically independent 
> yet technologically exactly the same.
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Santosh Rajan <santrajan at gmail.com 
> <mailto:santrajan at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     Hi Don,
>     I think you have missed the point entirely. Let me quote our
>     european colleagues. " was also wondering whether it would be more
>     appropriate to have one single consolidated foundation".
>     Right! Lets think in terms of one single consolidated foundation. 
>     So what have you got to say about that?
>     Now let me add my personal views to this. Living in an
>     increasingly globalized world, something so universal like
>     "identity", should be globalized and made "one".
>     Instead of breaking up OpenID into cultural, geographic and
>     language boundaries, we should be working towards unifying OpenID
>     into one universal Identity.
>     I think it is ridiculous to think of OpenID europe, or OpenID
>     Japan or OpenID India or whatever you want to call it. 
>     Thanks 
>     Santosh
>     On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Don Thibeau (OIDF ED)
>     <don at oidf.org <mailto:don at oidf.org>> wrote:
>         The OpenID Foundation has much work to do in Europe in 2010.
>         I hope the board elections underway will increase our
>         representation,
>         resources and expertise on several fronts WRT OpenID EU.
>         I plan to propose a 2010 OpenID Foundation EU committee to:
>         1. Review the analysis underway of our trademarks and brands
>         2. Discuss EU membership outreach and organization
>         3. Review EU budget plans and priorities.
>         With that new committee's help and that of Henrik, Snorri and
>         others, I plan
>         to propose the 2010 board sponsor a "OpenID Summit Europe" to
>         occur around
>         the Burton Catalyst Europe, April 19-22 in Prague.  I have
>         been invited to
>         speak at that conference http://www.catalyst.burtongroup.com/eu10/
>         Don Thibeau
>         don at OIDF.org
>         Executive Director
>         The OpenID Foundation
>         http://openid.net
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net
>         <mailto:openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net>
>         [mailto:openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net
>         <mailto:openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net>] On Behalf Of
>         Henrik Biering
>         Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 6:07 PM
>         To: Snorri Giorgetti
>         Cc: openid-board at lists.openid.net
>         <mailto:openid-board at lists.openid.net>;
>         openid-eu at lists.openid.net <mailto:openid-eu at lists.openid.net>
>         Subject: [OpenID board] Status of the OpenID Foundation Europe
>         Hi Snorri,
>         how are you doing? I have not heard anything from you for
>         quite a long time.
>         Yesterday, I discovered that the openid.dk <http://openid.dk>
>         domain registered by OpenID
>         foundation Europe had expired and had been deactivated.
>         I have now managed to pay the invoice and get the domain
>         reactivated.
>         However, I wonder about the situation of OpenID Europe
>         Foundation in
>         general. You have done an impressive job of aquiring the
>         European and
>         National Trademarks for OpenID as well as several national OpenID
>         domains on behalf of the EU foundation, and it would be sad to
>         see the
>         result of these efforts vanish.
>         If there are no resources available to maintain OpenID Foundation
>         Europe, maybe it is appropriate to consider how this IPR may be
>         consolidated within the global OpenID Foundation (or
>         alternatively at
>         the national levels).
>         Best Regards,
>         Henrik Biering
>         OpenID-DK representative
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