From jn.colin at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 09:52:08 2009 From: jn.colin at gmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean-No=EBl_Colin?=) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:52:08 +0100 Subject: [OpenID board] Some comments about the OpenId Europe and local representatives Message-ID: <6713CF23-8AF4-48EA-93BA-2EC159E4D309@gmail.com> Dear members of the OpenId board, I've been nominated in June 2009 as belgian OpenId representative, and I would like to share a few comments, at least about OpenId Europe the OpenId Europe website was last updated in June, to announce my 'nomination'; previous update was in December 2008. Does it really make sense to maintain that foundation? I have the feeling that it gives a bad image of OpenId, at least in Europe, which looks like a not very lively community I understand that being OpenId representative means that I should have a role towards my local community, and I already had some contacts for that; but shouldn't we also be some kind of relay between the foundation and the local communities? Shouldn't there be an top-down information flow? I'm of course following what's happening on the specs mailing list, but I must admit I don't feel what it's like to be part of the OpenId community... I renewed my membership to show my support, but don't really feel part of any real community, which I think is a bit sad So I would propose two things: assess the real need for the OpenId Europe community, and put in place some communication flows from the board towards the local representatives, to give a sense of liveliness to this community. Best regards --- Prof. Jean-No?l Colin Faculty of Computer Science Tel: +32 (0)81 725274 University of Namur http://info.fundp.ac.be Rue Grandgagnage 21 Skype: jn.colin 5000 Namur Belgium -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andy.powell at eduserv.org.uk Thu Nov 5 10:45:25 2009 From: andy.powell at eduserv.org.uk (Andy Powell) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:45:25 +0000 Subject: [OpenID board] Some comments about the OpenId Europe and local representatives In-Reply-To: <6713CF23-8AF4-48EA-93BA-2EC159E4D309@gmail.com> References: <6713CF23-8AF4-48EA-93BA-2EC159E4D309@gmail.com> Message-ID: <051279DC42F84849A64DA04141E1F9552093A2A65A@edu-vmw-eml-l01.edu2000.com> Here's my gut feeling on this... I think there is a global OpenID community and on that basis the board needs global representation on it if possible. I'm not convinced that trying to build sub-communities on a geographical basis makes much sense other than: 1) to organise local events and so on, and 2) to lobby national governments to adopt OpenID (in the way that the OpenID Foundation and Information Card Foundation have been doing in the US). On that basis, I think that trying to build a European community is at the wrong level - it's too broad for both the events and the lobbying. Building communities at a lower level might work... However, I'm on the advisory board for the Dublin Core Metadata Initiative which has tried to encourage national affiliates (primarily as a funding model) with associated national communities and in my experience it is very hard to get those national communities working properly - things either happen globally, or they don't happen at all. Just my 2c (Euros!). Hope this helps, Andy ________________________________ Andy Powell Research Programme Director Eduserv andy.powell at eduserv.org.uk 01225 474319 / 07989 476710 www.eduserv.org.uk efoundations.typepad.com twitter.com/andypowe11 From: openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Jean-No?l Colin Sent: 05 November 2009 09:52 To: openid-board at lists.openid.net Subject: [OpenID board] Some comments about the OpenId Europe and local representatives Dear members of the OpenId board, I've been nominated in June 2009 as belgian OpenId representative, and I would like to share a few comments, at least about OpenId Europe * the OpenId Europe website was last updated in June, to announce my 'nomination'; previous update was in December 2008. Does it really make sense to maintain that foundation? I have the feeling that it gives a bad image of OpenId, at least in Europe, which looks like a not very lively community * I understand that being OpenId representative means that I should have a role towards my local community, and I already had some contacts for that; but shouldn't we also be some kind of relay between the foundation and the local communities? Shouldn't there be an top-down information flow? I'm of course following what's happening on the specs mailing list, but I must admit I don't feel what it's like to be part of the OpenId community... I renewed my membership to show my support, but don't really feel part of any real community, which I think is a bit sad So I would propose two things: assess the real need for the OpenId Europe community, and put in place some communication flows from the board towards the local representatives, to give a sense of liveliness to this community. Best regards --- Prof. Jean-No?l Colin Faculty of Computer Science Tel: +32 (0)81 725274 University of Namur http://info.fundp.ac.be Rue Grandgagnage 21 Skype: jn.colin 5000 Namur Belgium -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From santrajan at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 14:57:05 2009 From: santrajan at gmail.com (Santosh Rajan) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:27:05 +0530 Subject: [OpenID board] Some comments about the OpenId Europe and local representatives In-Reply-To: <051279DC42F84849A64DA04141E1F9552093A2A65A@edu-vmw-eml-l01.edu2000.com> References: <6713CF23-8AF4-48EA-93BA-2EC159E4D309@gmail.com> <051279DC42F84849A64DA04141E1F9552093A2A65A@edu-vmw-eml-l01.edu2000.com> Message-ID: Hi Joen, Andy, I must agree with Andy. I don't know why you should feel left out Joen. I think everyone should participate in this OpenId community (and make it one global community). I can assure you from my experience, (even though i mostly disagree with the views around here), the folks around here are accomodating of people from anywhere, even an obnoxious guy like me :-) So everyone should feel free to participate here. On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Andy Powell wrote: > Here?s my gut feeling on this... > > > > I think there is a global OpenID community and on that basis the board > needs global representation on it if possible. I?m not convinced that > trying to build sub-communities on a geographical basis makes much sense > other than: > > > > 1) to organise local events and so on, and > > 2) to lobby national governments to adopt OpenID (in the way that the > OpenID Foundation and Information Card Foundation have been doing in the > US). > > > > On that basis, I think that trying to build a European community is at the > wrong level ? it?s too broad for both the events and the lobbying. Building > communities at a lower level might work... > > > > However, I?m on the advisory board for the Dublin Core Metadata Initiative > which has tried to encourage national affiliates (primarily as a funding > model) with associated national communities and in my experience it is very > hard to get those national communities working properly ? things either > happen globally, or they don?t happen at all. > > > > Just my 2c (Euros!). > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > Andy > > > ------------------------------ > > Andy Powell > Research Programme Director > *Eduserv ** * > > > > *andy.powell at eduserv.org.uk* > 01225 474319 / 07989 476710 > > *www.eduserv.org.uk* > > *efoundations.typepad.com* ** > > *twitter.com/andypowe11* > > *From:* openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto: > openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] *On Behalf Of *Jean-No?l Colin > *Sent:* 05 November 2009 09:52 > *To:* openid-board at lists.openid.net > *Subject:* [OpenID board] Some comments about the OpenId Europe and local > representatives > > > > Dear members of the OpenId board, > > > > I've been nominated in June 2009 as belgian OpenId representative, and I > would like to share a few comments, at least about OpenId Europe > > - the OpenId Europe website was last updated in June, to announce my > 'nomination'; previous update was in December 2008. Does it really make > sense to maintain that foundation? I have the feeling that it gives a bad > image of OpenId, at least in Europe, which looks like a not very lively > community > - I understand that being OpenId representative means that I should > have a role towards my local community, and I already had some contacts for > that; but shouldn't we also be some kind of relay between the foundation and > the local communities? Shouldn't there be an top-down information flow? I'm > of course following what's happening on the specs mailing list, but I must > admit I don't feel what it's like to be part of the OpenId community... I > renewed my membership to show my support, but don't really feel part of any > real community, which I think is a bit sad > > > > So I would propose two things: assess the real need for the OpenId Europe > community, and put in place some communication flows from the board towards > the local representatives, to give a sense of liveliness to this community. > > > > Best regards > > > > --- > > Prof. Jean-No?l Colin > > Faculty of Computer Science > Tel: +32 (0)81 725274 > > University of Namur > http://info.fundp.ac.be > > Rue Grandgagnage 21 > Skype: jn.colin > > 5000 Namur > > Belgium > > > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > board at lists.openid.net > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board > > -- http://hi.im/santosh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jn.colin at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 15:06:31 2009 From: jn.colin at gmail.com (=?windows-1252?Q?Jean-No=EBl_Colin?=) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:06:31 +0100 Subject: [OpenID board] Some comments about the OpenId Europe and local representatives In-Reply-To: References: <6713CF23-8AF4-48EA-93BA-2EC159E4D309@gmail.com> <051279DC42F84849A64DA04141E1F9552093A2A65A@edu-vmw-eml-l01.edu2000.com> Message-ID: <8B56BB21-7593-4743-A6FE-3E58EE4F021D@gmail.com> Hi Just to clarify, I'm not saying I'm feeling left out... I'm sure people at the board are very accommodating. I'm just feeling I'm missing some glue within the community... Being informed of what's going on, for instance... Getting feedback from the OpenId summit I just found out took place recently... I don't see a trace of it on the openid.net website... And also, why create an openideurope.eu, if it doesn't show any sign of activity: I think it's giving a wrong signal to the public Best regards Jean-No?l On 05 Nov 2009, at 15:57, Santosh Rajan wrote: > Hi Joen, Andy, > > I must agree with Andy. I don't know why you should feel left out > Joen. I think everyone should participate in this OpenId community > (and make it one global community). > > I can assure you from my experience, (even though i mostly disagree > with the views around here), the folks around here are accomodating > of people from anywhere, even an obnoxious guy like me :-) > > So everyone should feel free to participate here. > > > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Andy Powell > wrote: > Here?s my gut feeling on this... > > > I think there is a global OpenID community and on that basis the > board needs global representation on it if possible. I?m not > convinced that trying to build sub-communities on a geographical > basis makes much sense other than: > > > 1) to organise local events and so on, and > > 2) to lobby national governments to adopt OpenID (in the way that > the OpenID Foundation and Information Card Foundation have been > doing in the US). > > > On that basis, I think that trying to build a European community is > at the wrong level ? it?s too broad for both the events and the > lobbying. Building communities at a lower level might work... > > > However, I?m on the advisory board for the Dublin Core Metadata > Initiative which has tried to encourage national affiliates > (primarily as a funding model) with associated national communities > and in my experience it is very hard to get those national > communities working properly ? things either happen globally, or > they don?t happen at all. > > > Just my 2c (Euros!). > > > Hope this helps, > > > Andy > > > Andy Powell > Research Programme Director > Eduserv > > > andy.powell at eduserv.org.uk > 01225 474319 / 07989 476710 > > www.eduserv.org.uk > > efoundations.typepad.com > > twitter.com/andypowe11 > > From: openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:openid-board- > bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Jean-No?l Colin > Sent: 05 November 2009 09:52 > To: openid-board at lists.openid.net > Subject: [OpenID board] Some comments about the OpenId Europe and > local representatives > > > Dear members of the OpenId board, > > > I've been nominated in June 2009 as belgian OpenId representative, > and I would like to share a few comments, at least about OpenId Europe > > the OpenId Europe website was last updated in June, to announce my > 'nomination'; previous update was in December 2008. Does it really > make sense to maintain that foundation? I have the feeling that it > gives a bad image of OpenId, at least in Europe, which looks like a > not very lively community > I understand that being OpenId representative means that I should > have a role towards my local community, and I already had some > contacts for that; but shouldn't we also be some kind of relay > between the foundation and the local communities? Shouldn't there be > an top-down information flow? I'm of course following what's > happening on the specs mailing list, but I must admit I don't feel > what it's like to be part of the OpenId community... I renewed my > membership to show my support, but don't really feel part of any > real community, which I think is a bit sad > > So I would propose two things: assess the real need for the OpenId > Europe community, and put in place some communication flows from the > board towards the local representatives, to give a sense of > liveliness to this community. > > > Best regards > > > --- > > Prof. Jean-No?l Colin > > Faculty of Computer > Science > Tel > : +32 (0)81 725274 > > University of > Namur > http > ://info.fundp.ac.be > > Rue Grandgagnage > 21 > Skype > : jn.colin > > 5000 Namur > > Belgium > > > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > board at lists.openid.net > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board > > > > > -- > http://hi.im/santosh > > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > board at lists.openid.net > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From santrajan at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 15:14:54 2009 From: santrajan at gmail.com (Santosh Rajan) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:44:54 +0530 Subject: [OpenID board] Some comments about the OpenId Europe and local representatives In-Reply-To: <8B56BB21-7593-4743-A6FE-3E58EE4F021D@gmail.com> References: <6713CF23-8AF4-48EA-93BA-2EC159E4D309@gmail.com> <051279DC42F84849A64DA04141E1F9552093A2A65A@edu-vmw-eml-l01.edu2000.com> <8B56BB21-7593-4743-A6FE-3E58EE4F021D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Well Jean, in any case looking at it philosophically (and not politically) you are right. There shouldn't be any geographical identity community. Given that identity is for the whole human kind. To get down to real world problems, we like it or not, identity is heavily tied to the DNS, which is very much political. Maybe Identity should be completely independent of DNS? On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Jean-No?l Colin wrote: > Hi > > Just to clarify, I'm not saying I'm feeling left out... I'm sure people at > the board are very accommodating. I'm just feeling I'm missing some glue > within the community... Being informed of what's going on, for instance... > Getting feedback from the OpenId summit I just found out took place > recently... I don't see a trace of it on the openid.net website... > > And also, why create an openideurope.eu, if it doesn't show any sign of > activity: I think it's giving a wrong signal to the public > > Best regards > > Jean-No?l > > > > > On 05 Nov 2009, at 15:57, Santosh Rajan wrote: > > Hi Joen, Andy, > > I must agree with Andy. I don't know why you should feel left out Joen. I > think everyone should participate in this OpenId community (and make it one > global community). > > I can assure you from my experience, (even though i mostly disagree with > the views around here), the folks around here are accomodating of people > from anywhere, even an obnoxious guy like me :-) > > So everyone should feel free to participate here. > > > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Andy Powell wrote: > >> Here?s my gut feeling on this... >> >> >> I think there is a global OpenID community and on that basis the board >> needs global representation on it if possible. I?m not convinced that >> trying to build sub-communities on a geographical basis makes much sense >> other than: >> >> >> 1) to organise local events and so on, and >> >> 2) to lobby national governments to adopt OpenID (in the way that the >> OpenID Foundation and Information Card Foundation have been doing in the >> US). >> >> >> On that basis, I think that trying to build a European community is at the >> wrong level ? it?s too broad for both the events and the lobbying. Building >> communities at a lower level might work... >> >> >> However, I?m on the advisory board for the Dublin Core Metadata Initiative >> which has tried to encourage national affiliates (primarily as a funding >> model) with associated national communities and in my experience it is very >> hard to get those national communities working properly ? things either >> happen globally, or they don?t happen at all. >> >> >> Just my 2c (Euros!). >> >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> >> Andy >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Andy Powell >> Research Programme Director >> *Eduserv ** * >> >> >> *andy.powell at eduserv.org.uk* >> 01225 474319 / 07989 476710 >> >> *www.eduserv.org.uk* >> >> *efoundations.typepad.com* ** >> >> *twitter.com/andypowe11* >> >> *From:* openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto: >> openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] *On Behalf Of *Jean-No?l Colin >> *Sent:* 05 November 2009 09:52 >> *To:* openid-board at lists.openid.net >> *Subject:* [OpenID board] Some comments about the OpenId Europe and local >> representatives >> >> >> Dear members of the OpenId board, >> >> >> I've been nominated in June 2009 as belgian OpenId representative, and I >> would like to share a few comments, at least about OpenId Europe >> >> - the OpenId Europe website was last updated in June, to announce my >> 'nomination'; previous update was in December 2008. Does it really make >> sense to maintain that foundation? I have the feeling that it gives a bad >> image of OpenId, at least in Europe, which looks like a not very lively >> community >> - I understand that being OpenId representative means that I should >> have a role towards my local community, and I already had some contacts for >> that; but shouldn't we also be some kind of relay between the foundation and >> the local communities? Shouldn't there be an top-down information flow? I'm >> of course following what's happening on the specs mailing list, but I must >> admit I don't feel what it's like to be part of the OpenId community... I >> renewed my membership to show my support, but don't really feel part of any >> real community, which I think is a bit sad >> >> >> >> So I would propose two things: assess the real need for the OpenId Europe >> community, and put in place some communication flows from the board towards >> the local representatives, to give a sense of liveliness to this community. >> >> >> Best regards >> >> >> --- >> >> Prof. Jean-No?l Colin >> >> Faculty of Computer Science >> Tel: +32 (0)81 725274 >> >> University of Namur >> http://info.fundp.ac.be >> >> Rue Grandgagnage 21 >> Skype: jn.colin >> >> 5000 Namur >> >> Belgium >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> board mailing list >> board at lists.openid.net >> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board >> >> > > > -- > http://hi.im/santosh > > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > board at lists.openid.net > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board > > > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > board at lists.openid.net > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board > > -- http://hi.im/santosh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chris.messina at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 18:18:42 2009 From: chris.messina at gmail.com (Chris Messina) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:18:42 -0800 Subject: [OpenID board] Some comments about the OpenId Europe and local representatives In-Reply-To: <8B56BB21-7593-4743-A6FE-3E58EE4F021D@gmail.com> References: <6713CF23-8AF4-48EA-93BA-2EC159E4D309@gmail.com> <051279DC42F84849A64DA04141E1F9552093A2A65A@edu-vmw-eml-l01.edu2000.com> <8B56BB21-7593-4743-A6FE-3E58EE4F021D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1bc4603e0911051018x2c0c899fh176c129898350bf1@mail.gmail.com> It's a fair criticism ? as a board, we've not done a great job of communicating to the broader community using our website. These mailing lists are probably where most of the action is taking place. There are certainly lots of conversations happening about OpenID these days but ? ironically ? they're happening in a distributed way that doesn't necessarily lend themselves to consolidation. There's still a role for the OpenID website ? but individual sites for international communities? They might only be useful or relevant if there are enough individually motivated locals to maintain the sites and use them to coordinate local activities. As a board member, I'd love to see more people take up the cause of OpenID and for the foundation to support them ? but it's currently it's no one's "job". As with most volunteer communities ? it takes individual effort over time to make a difference. We have a board meeting this afternoon and it's something that I'll bring up. I certainly can't promise anything, but I do think that people should use this and the general@ list to coordinate and organize local and international community work. Chris On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Jean-No?l Colin wrote: > Hi > > Just to clarify, I'm not saying I'm feeling left out... I'm sure people at > the board are very accommodating. I'm just feeling I'm missing some glue > within the community... Being informed of what's going on, for instance... > Getting feedback from the OpenId summit I just found out took place > recently... I don't see a trace of it on the openid.net website... > > And also, why create an openideurope.eu, if it doesn't show any sign of > activity: I think it's giving a wrong signal to the public > > Best regards > > Jean-No?l > > > > > On 05 Nov 2009, at 15:57, Santosh Rajan wrote: > > Hi Joen, Andy, > > I must agree with Andy. I don't know why you should feel left out Joen. I > think everyone should participate in this OpenId community (and make it one > global community). > > I can assure you from my experience, (even though i mostly disagree with > the views around here), the folks around here are accomodating of people > from anywhere, even an obnoxious guy like me :-) > > So everyone should feel free to participate here. > > > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Andy Powell wrote: > >> Here?s my gut feeling on this... >> >> >> I think there is a global OpenID community and on that basis the board >> needs global representation on it if possible. I?m not convinced that >> trying to build sub-communities on a geographical basis makes much sense >> other than: >> >> >> 1) to organise local events and so on, and >> >> 2) to lobby national governments to adopt OpenID (in the way that the >> OpenID Foundation and Information Card Foundation have been doing in the >> US). >> >> >> On that basis, I think that trying to build a European community is at the >> wrong level ? it?s too broad for both the events and the lobbying. Building >> communities at a lower level might work... >> >> >> However, I?m on the advisory board for the Dublin Core Metadata Initiative >> which has tried to encourage national affiliates (primarily as a funding >> model) with associated national communities and in my experience it is very >> hard to get those national communities working properly ? things either >> happen globally, or they don?t happen at all. >> >> >> Just my 2c (Euros!). >> >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> >> Andy >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Andy Powell >> Research Programme Director >> *Eduserv ** * >> >> >> *andy.powell at eduserv.org.uk* >> 01225 474319 / 07989 476710 >> >> *www.eduserv.org.uk* >> >> *efoundations.typepad.com* ** >> >> *twitter.com/andypowe11* >> >> *From:* openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto: >> openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] *On Behalf Of *Jean-No?l Colin >> *Sent:* 05 November 2009 09:52 >> *To:* openid-board at lists.openid.net >> *Subject:* [OpenID board] Some comments about the OpenId Europe and local >> representatives >> >> >> Dear members of the OpenId board, >> >> >> I've been nominated in June 2009 as belgian OpenId representative, and I >> would like to share a few comments, at least about OpenId Europe >> >> - the OpenId Europe website was last updated in June, to announce my >> 'nomination'; previous update was in December 2008. Does it really make >> sense to maintain that foundation? I have the feeling that it gives a bad >> image of OpenId, at least in Europe, which looks like a not very lively >> community >> - I understand that being OpenId representative means that I should >> have a role towards my local community, and I already had some contacts for >> that; but shouldn't we also be some kind of relay between the foundation and >> the local communities? Shouldn't there be an top-down information flow? I'm >> of course following what's happening on the specs mailing list, but I must >> admit I don't feel what it's like to be part of the OpenId community... I >> renewed my membership to show my support, but don't really feel part of any >> real community, which I think is a bit sad >> >> >> >> So I would propose two things: assess the real need for the OpenId Europe >> community, and put in place some communication flows from the board towards >> the local representatives, to give a sense of liveliness to this community. >> >> >> Best regards >> >> >> --- >> >> Prof. Jean-No?l Colin >> >> Faculty of Computer Science >> Tel: +32 (0)81 725274 >> >> University of Namur >> http://info.fundp.ac.be >> >> Rue Grandgagnage 21 >> Skype: jn.colin >> >> 5000 Namur >> >> Belgium >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> board mailing list >> board at lists.openid.net >> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board >> >> > > > -- > http://hi.im/santosh > > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > board at lists.openid.net > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board > > > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > board at lists.openid.net > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board > > -- Chris Messina Open Web Advocate Personal: http://factoryjoe.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/chrismessina Citizen Agency: http://citizenagency.com Diso Project: http://diso-project.org OpenID Foundation: http://openid.net This email is: [ ] shareable [X] ask first [ ] private -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From don at oidf.org Wed Nov 11 18:21:14 2009 From: don at oidf.org (Don Thibeau (OIDF ED)) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:21:14 -0500 Subject: [OpenID board] Opening of the 2010 OpenID Foundation Board election process. Message-ID: <002101ca62fb$c1cef680$456ce380$@org> Dear OpenID Foundation Members: I am pleased to announce the opening of the 2010 OpenID Foundation Board nomination and election process. The information below shares some context for the election and is intended for you - the person out there considering running, nominating or voting in the upcoming OpenID Foundation election. This election will hit the refresh button on OIDF for 2010. I am pleased to report the "foundation" of the foundation is solid. New financial, administrative and legal measures are in place. Our budget was carefully mapped and still able to respond to the government's open identity initiative. Because of all that and more, the newly elected community representatives will have a major influence on 2010 plans, priorities and budget. The focus on security and usability at last week's OpenID Summit at Yahoo! and follow up discussions at the IIW reflected the key concerns of the current board. The "state of OpenID security" work Jeff Hodges, Ashish Jain and others did inventoried the security challenges we still face. Allan Tom, Breno de Medeiros and others laid out key issues in presentations on the "state of usability." New "product" improvement initiatives like those discussed in Dick Hart and David Recordon's IIW session on V.Next and new "cloud" and active "client" selector demos all point to renewed energy for building on core OpenID technology. Just as OpenID technology is evolving, how the board works must change. Organizations that have transitioned from specification development to market adoption (the space we entered this year) have evolved their governance and membership programs to meet operational and financial objectives. In order to improve the core technology "product", drive RP adoption and increase member services, we need to find ways to offer more membership value and create diversified sources of income. 2010's board members will consider how best to balance competing priorities with still unfolding value in the trust framework and certification work to do with the US government and others. We've been told by experts that demand for certification is a leading indicator of the growth and maturity of a technology standard. How we do certification will, in part, shape our future. Our discussions have us looking beyond the US government requirements to broader market adoption dynamics. The IIW community's "acid test" greatly improved the working hypothesis that RP adoption can be best served by a synchronized and phased focus on both technology interoperability and policy certification. In an organization like ours, leadership must come from all quarters. As an essentially volunteer run organization, change - whether to a website page or working group - is in the hands of those motivated to act. The OpenID foundation remains a unique mash up of democracy, meritocracy and technology. A few months ago, I took great pride in introducing the OpenID Board to Vivek Kundra, the US CIO at the White House. I made sure Vivek knew the people he was meeting were not the usual suspects of lawyers and lobbyists, but the engineers and computer scientists who wrestled daily with the most challenging problems of internet identity. The government adoption provided a forcing function for OpenID technology, community collaboration, and a bit of history making. Over a glass of wine, Nat Sakimura, Andrew Nash and I were riffing on the OpenID Foundation's "mission." We kept pushing beyond: "stewardship of intellectual property." "Enabling trust" wasn't good enough but the Japanese translation of "trust" into "a feeling of safety" and being "at ease" began to capture what OpenID might someday bring to users. It hints at how important our work can be. For myself, I believe an "open" reliable, "trusted" identity standard can be the next key operational piece of Internet infrastructure. It can be to the identity layer what DNS is to the Web layer and IP is to the packet layer. In that way, the mission of the OpenID foundation and the leadership of its board can build something sustainable and important on behalf of internet users. The contribution of your leadership on our board and active engagement as members of our foundation is highly encouraged. Employment in any company is not a barrier. Please carefully consider your nomination and those of others. A FAQ with specific details on the election process is available at www.openid.net. Thanks for your support. 2009 has been an extraordinary year, 2010 promises much more. Don Thibeau don at OIDF.org Executive Director The OpenID Foundation http://openid.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bkissel at janrain.com Mon Nov 16 00:45:22 2009 From: bkissel at janrain.com (Brian Kissel) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:45:22 -0500 Subject: [OpenID board] [OpenID-relying-parties] This list is now moderated In-Reply-To: <3ccc5c3e-651f-4fc2-8a43-f12d4810615a@y10g2000prg.googlegroups.com> References: <3ccc5c3e-651f-4fc2-8a43-f12d4810615a@y10g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <419E40647338514BBA4F8031282090AE1D11FFA96E@VMBX107.ihostexchange.net> I'd love to see this list being used. Can everyone who is on this forward it to existing and prospective RPs that we think could provide us with some good input and feedback? Cheers, Brian ___________ Brian Kissel CEO, JanRain - OpenID-enable your websites, customers, partners, and employees 5331 SW Macadam Ave., Suite 375, Portland, OR 97239 Email: bkissel at janrain.com Cell: 503.866.4424 Fax: 503.296.5502 -----Original Message----- From: openid-relying-parties at googlegroups.com [mailto:openid-relying-parties at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Messina Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:53 AM To: OpenID-relying-parties Subject: [OpenID-relying-parties] This list is now moderated I don't know if this group will ever be used (it seemed to be abandoned as soon as it was created), but I've turned on first-post moderation since it was filling up with spam. 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URL: From chris.messina at gmail.com Tue Nov 17 01:09:55 2009 From: chris.messina at gmail.com (Chris Messina) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:09:55 -0800 Subject: [OpenID board] OpenID selector demo screen shots In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1bc4603e0911161709v338bb590p9055667ad5b473e5@mail.gmail.com> This is great. Thanks Mike. I might also suggest uploading a slidedeck to Slideshare or Scribd to help people understand the user flow through these screens... reading top to bottom is fine, but putting them into a chronological series of cards might help people "click through" the experience. Chris On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 3:54 AM, Nat Sakimura wrote: > That's great. Thanks Mike. > > =nat > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Mike Jones wrote: > >> I?ve posted a set of screen captures and commentary corresponding to the >> OpenID selector demos we gave at the OpenID Summit and the Internet Identity >> Workshop at http://self-issued.info/?p=235. >> >> >> >> -- Mike >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> board mailing list >> board at lists.openid.net >> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board >> >> > > > -- > Nat Sakimura (=nat) > http://www.sakimura.org/en/ > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > board at lists.openid.net > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board > > -- Chris Messina Open Web Advocate Personal: http://factoryjoe.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/chrismessina Citizen Agency: http://citizenagency.com Diso Project: http://diso-project.org OpenID Foundation: http://openid.net This email is: [ ] shareable [X] ask first [ ] private -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Mike Jones wrote: > I?ve posted notes on the consensus goals for OpenID v.Next arrived at > during the session at IIW at http://self-issued.info/?p=256. > > > > Cheers, > > -- Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > board at lists.openid.net > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board > > -- http://hi.im/santosh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From santrajan at gmail.com Wed Nov 18 10:18:11 2009 From: santrajan at gmail.com (Santosh Rajan) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:48:11 +0530 Subject: [OpenID board] OpenID v.Next session notes from IIW In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is great stuff. Nice to see clear and reasonable objectives. I hope we can see an action plan with target date (in six months), milestones, and individual (or group) responsibilities, and hope we can follow the progress till completion. Best wishes to all the people involved. 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URL: From Michael.Jones at microsoft.com Wed Nov 18 22:36:18 2009 From: Michael.Jones at microsoft.com (Mike Jones) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:36:18 +0000 Subject: [OpenID board] October 7, 2009 OpenID Board Call Minutes Message-ID: October 7, 2009 OpenID Board Call Minutes Present: Don Thibeau, Executive Director Mike Jones Andrew Nash Mike Ozburn Nat Sakimura Brian Kissel Allen Tom Joseph Smarr Eric Sachs Gary Krall David Recordon Luke Shepard Absent: Snorri Giorgetti Chris Messina Raj Mata Nataraj Nagaratnam Scott Kveton Visitors: John Ehrig, Global Inventures 1. Booz Allen Hamilton Booz Allen Hamilton's board membership was unanimously accepted, with Mike Ozburn as their board representative. Following that, the board unanimously appointed Mike Ozburn as OIDF treasurer for the remainder of the year, with Raj Mata stepping down as treasurer due to additional responsibilities he's taken on at Yahoo!. Mike Jones made both motions. David Recordon seconded the first and Nat Sakimura seconded the second. 2. Bylaws and IPR Documents Drafts of the Bylaws and IPR Policy and Procedures documents were circulated over a week before the board call for review by member's legal teams. The bylaws were so out of date as to not even reflect there being corporate members. The bylaws as circulated by John Ehrig on September 29th were approved, with two changes: 1. In Section 5.2(b) (Community Directors) the text "Each Community Director must be a member of the corporation or an employee or consultant of a member of the corporation, and upon termination of such membership pursuant to Section 3.5 for any reason, the Community Director shall no longer be qualified to serve as a Community Director and shall be deemed to have immediately resigned" is replaced by the text "Each Community Director serves as an individual, with no employment criteria applying to his or her service as a Community Director". 2. The former section 5.15(b), allowing removal of a community director by membership vote was deleted, because the bylaws contained no similar procedure for sustaining directors. Mike Jones moved to approve the revised bylaws as amended, with David Recordon seconding. The IPR Process document changes as circulated by John Ehrig on September 29th were adopted unanimously, with the motion made by Mike Jones and seconded by Nat Sakimura. These changes will now be submitted to a membership vote. In discussion, the board decided not to adopt the unrelated changes to the IPR Policy document, which were also circulated, and to table any further work on accommodating members with complex corporate structures until a concrete need to do so arises. 3. OpenID Summit Yahoo will be hosting an OpenID Summit on Monday, November 2nd (the day before the Internet Identity Workshop). A general invitation will be sent on Friday or Saturday, October 9th or 10th. This is intended to be a working session for people who are actively implementing OpenID. 4. Trust Frameworks and Certification Some Information Card Foundation (ICF) members will be joining the summit to continue our joint work on Trust Frameworks and Certification. We are pursuing an open market approach based on self-certification and open choice of auditors. We are working to address liability issues in our trust framework work. A legal review of our proposals will be presented at the summit. The government has endorsed the three principles agreed to by our board and the ICF board: * Self-certification * Light weight as possible * Credibility of process Interest in identity and our trust framework within the US Government is increasing. Don and others from the OIDF and the ICF briefed White House national security staff members on our identity efforts last week. They also met with the Center for Democracy and Technology (CDT). We are working on joint drafts of trust framework whitepapers that incorporate a treatment of liability issues to be ready for review at the summit. A progress report on the National Institutes of Health (NIH) pilot will be presented at the summit. The GSA and CTO's office are actively looking for additional pilots, including level 2 and level 3 pilots. US federal CIO Vivek Kundra wants to video-conference into either the summit or an appropriate IIW session. We are also working on a date in November for him to visit the Bay Area. 5. Vice-Chair Position Brian Kissel moved and Mike Jones seconded that Nat Sakimura be appointed as Vice-Chair for the remainder of the year, as Scott Kveton had asked to be replaced. The motion passed unanimously. 6. Web Site Update We continue updating the openid.net web site. In particular, the membership section has recently been updated. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Link: https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/19 Title: Revised IPR Process Document Description: On October 7, 2009 the Board of Directors voted to revise the OIDF IPR Process document. The revisions are primarily being made to help streamline the formation of work groups. A vote of the full membership is required to formally adopt the revised process. Marked and clean versions of the revised process document are viewable here: http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2009/10/OpenID_Process_Document__Modified_Edit_20090312_-clean1.pdf http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2009/10/OpenID_Process_Document__Modified_Edit_20090312_.pdf Thank you for your participation! Available Choices: * Approve * Reject * Abstain Thank you for your participation! --- The OpenID Foundation http://openid.net/foundation/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Link: https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/19 Title: Revised IPR Process Document Description: On October 7, 2009 the Board of Directors voted to revise the OIDF IPR Process document. The revisions are primarily being made to help streamline the formation of work groups. A vote of the full membership is required to formally adopt the revised process. Marked and clean versions of the revised process document are viewable here: http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2009/10/OpenID_Process_Document__Modified_Edit_20090312_-clean1.pdf http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2009/10/OpenID_Process_Document__Modified_Edit_20090312_.pdf Thank you for your participation! Available Choices: * Approve * Reject * Abstain Thank you for your participation! --- The OpenID Foundation http://openid.net/foundation/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Twitter: Follow Me On 11/19/2009 03:56 AM, David Recordon: > There seems to be a duplicate poll here. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: > > Date: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:49 PM > Subject: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened > To: recordond at gmail.com > > > Hello David Recordon , > > Voting has opened on the following poll -- please register your vote > before 2009-12-04. > > Link: > https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/19 > > Title: > Revised IPR Process Document > > Description: > On October 7, 2009 the Board of Directors voted to revise the OIDF IPR > Process document. The revisions are primarily being made to help > streamline the formation of work groups. A vote of the full membership > is required to formally adopt the revised process. 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Link: https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/19 Title: Revised IPR Process Document Description: On October 7, 2009 the Board of Directors voted to revise the OIDF IPR Process document. The revisions are primarily being made to help streamline the formation of work groups. A vote of the full membership is required to formally adopt the revised process. Marked and clean versions of the revised process document are viewable here: http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2009/10/OpenID_Process_Document__Modified_Edit_20090312_-clean1.pdf http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2009/10/OpenID_Process_Document__Modified_Edit_20090312_.pdf Thank you for your participation! Available Choices: * Approve * Reject * Abstain Thank you for your participation! --- The OpenID Foundation http://openid.net/foundation/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Twitter: Follow Me On 11/19/2009 03:56 AM, David Recordon: > There seems to be a duplicate poll here. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: > > Date: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:49 PM > Subject: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened > To: recordond at gmail.com > > > Hello David Recordon , > > Voting has opened on the following poll -- please register your vote > before 2009-12-04. > > Link: > https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/19 > > Title: > Revised IPR Process Document > > Description: > On October 7, 2009 the Board of Directors voted to revise the OIDF IPR > Process document. The revisions are primarily being made to help > streamline the formation of work groups. A vote of the full membership > is required to formally adopt the revised process. 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Go and look in the voting tool. :) On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Mike Jones wrote: > It?s a re-vote because the previous member vote failed to reach quorum. > > > > -- Mike > > > > *From:* openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto: > openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] *On Behalf Of *David Recordon > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:57 PM > *To:* board at openid.net > *Subject:* [OpenID board] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened > > > > There seems to be a duplicate poll here. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: > Date: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:49 PM > Subject: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened > To: recordond at gmail.com > > > Hello David Recordon , > > Voting has opened on the following poll -- please register your vote before > 2009-12-04. > > Link: > https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/19 > > Title: > Revised IPR Process Document > > Description: > On October 7, 2009 the Board of Directors voted to revise the OIDF IPR > Process document. 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Go and look in the voting > tool. :) > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Mike Jones wrote: > >> It?s a re-vote because the previous member vote failed to reach quorum. >> >> >> >> -- Mike >> >> >> >> *From:* openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto: >> openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] *On Behalf Of *David Recordon >> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:57 PM >> *To:* board at openid.net >> *Subject:* [OpenID board] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened >> >> >> >> There seems to be a duplicate poll here. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: >> Date: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:49 PM >> Subject: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened >> To: recordond at gmail.com >> >> >> Hello David Recordon , >> >> Voting has opened on the following poll -- please register your vote >> before 2009-12-04. >> >> Link: >> https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/19 >> >> Title: >> Revised IPR Process Document >> >> Description: >> On October 7, 2009 the Board of Directors voted to revise the OIDF IPR >> Process document. The revisions are primarily being made to help >> streamline the formation of work groups. A vote of the full membership >> is required to formally adopt the revised process. Marked and clean >> versions of the revised process document are viewable here: >> >> http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2009/10/OpenID_Process_Document__Modified_Edit_20090312_-clean1.pdf >> >> http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2009/10/OpenID_Process_Document__Modified_Edit_20090312_.pdf >> >> Thank you for your participation! >> >> Available Choices: >> * Approve >> * Reject >> * Abstain >> >> Thank you for your participation! >> >> --- >> The OpenID Foundation >> http://openid.net/foundation/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> board mailing list >> board at lists.openid.net >> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > board at lists.openid.net > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board > > -- Chris Messina Open Web Advocate Personal: http://factoryjoe.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/chrismessina Citizen Agency: http://citizenagency.com Diso Project: http://diso-project.org OpenID Foundation: http://openid.net This email is: [ ] shareable [X] ask first [ ] private -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From Michael.Jones at microsoft.com Thu Nov 19 02:11:20 2009 From: Michael.Jones at microsoft.com (Mike Jones) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:11:20 +0000 Subject: [OpenID board] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened In-Reply-To: <1bc4603e0911181806m5c136d1fnb14b92b0d2907e58@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b04a43b2b862_4f35..fdc078b527553@hackberry.tmail> <1bc4603e0911181806m5c136d1fnb14b92b0d2907e58@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: They're right. There are polls open at https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/21 and https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/19 on the same topic! John and Don, can you cancel one of them and resend the notification for the other one? Then we should probably inform people who voted in the cancelled one that they need to vote in the live one! -- Mike From: openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Chris Messina Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:06 PM To: openid-board at lists.openid.net Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened Indeed, there are two. And, as Eddy pointed out, there's a typo on Page 6. "Only after if is ratified" should be "Only after if it is ratified" Should we vote to reject on the basis of this typo? Chris On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:03 PM, David Recordon > wrote: Yes, but right now there are two polls open. Go and look in the voting tool. :) On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Mike Jones > wrote: It's a re-vote because the previous member vote failed to reach quorum. -- Mike From: openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of David Recordon Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:57 PM To: board at openid.net Subject: [OpenID board] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened There seems to be a duplicate poll here. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: > Date: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:49 PM Subject: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened To: recordond at gmail.com Hello David Recordon , Voting has opened on the following poll -- please register your vote before 2009-12-04. Link: https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/19 Title: Revised IPR Process Document Description: On October 7, 2009 the Board of Directors voted to revise the OIDF IPR Process document. The revisions are primarily being made to help streamline the formation of work groups. A vote of the full membership is required to formally adopt the revised process. Marked and clean versions of the revised process document are viewable here: http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2009/10/OpenID_Process_Document__Modified_Edit_20090312_-clean1.pdf http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2009/10/OpenID_Process_Document__Modified_Edit_20090312_.pdf Thank you for your participation! 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URL: From jehrig at inventures.com Thu Nov 19 02:13:40 2009 From: jehrig at inventures.com (John Ehrig) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:13:40 -0800 Subject: [OpenID board] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened In-Reply-To: References: <4b04a43b2b862_4f35..fdc078b527553@hackberry.tmail> Message-ID: <9EFEC10B74DE2B4794BAB1EA0A66A423072845F2@ivmx01.lan.inventures.com> I do not know how that happened. I have asked Darin at Refresh Media to delete one of the polls because I do not see a way for me to delete a poll using the polling tool. ________________________________ From: openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of David Recordon Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:03 PM To: openid-board at lists.openid.net Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened Yes, but right now there are two polls open. Go and look in the voting tool. :) On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Mike Jones wrote: It's a re-vote because the previous member vote failed to reach quorum. -- Mike From: openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of David Recordon Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:57 PM To: board at openid.net Subject: [OpenID board] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened There seems to be a duplicate poll here. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Date: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:49 PM Subject: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened To: recordond at gmail.com Hello David Recordon , Voting has opened on the following poll -- please register your vote before 2009-12-04. Link: https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/19 Title: Revised IPR Process Document Description: On October 7, 2009 the Board of Directors voted to revise the OIDF IPR Process document. The revisions are primarily being made to help streamline the formation of work groups. A vote of the full membership is required to formally adopt the revised process. Marked and clean versions of the revised process document are viewable here: http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2009/10/OpenID_Process_Docum ent__Modified_Edit_20090312_-clean1.pdf http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2009/10/OpenID_Process_Docum ent__Modified_Edit_20090312_.pdf Thank you for your participation! Available Choices: * Approve * Reject * Abstain Thank you for your participation! --- The OpenID Foundation http://openid.net/foundation/ _______________________________________________ board mailing list board at lists.openid.net http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Michael.Jones at microsoft.com Thu Nov 19 02:14:12 2009 From: Michael.Jones at microsoft.com (Mike Jones) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:14:12 +0000 Subject: [OpenID board] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened In-Reply-To: <1bc4603e0911181806m5c136d1fnb14b92b0d2907e58@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b04a43b2b862_4f35..fdc078b527553@hackberry.tmail> <1bc4603e0911181806m5c136d1fnb14b92b0d2907e58@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The board should have the authority to correct typos that don't change the obvious meaning of the document without restarting the process. Unless there are objections, I believe that we should post corrected versions and proceed. Anyone opposed to this course of action? -- Mike From: openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Chris Messina Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:06 PM To: openid-board at lists.openid.net Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened Indeed, there are two. And, as Eddy pointed out, there's a typo on Page 6. "Only after if is ratified" should be "Only after if it is ratified" Should we vote to reject on the basis of this typo? Chris On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:03 PM, David Recordon > wrote: Yes, but right now there are two polls open. Go and look in the voting tool. :) On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Mike Jones > wrote: It's a re-vote because the previous member vote failed to reach quorum. -- Mike From: openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of David Recordon Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:57 PM To: board at openid.net Subject: [OpenID board] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened There seems to be a duplicate poll here. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: > Date: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:49 PM Subject: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened To: recordond at gmail.com Hello David Recordon , Voting has opened on the following poll -- please register your vote before 2009-12-04. Link: https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/19 Title: Revised IPR Process Document Description: On October 7, 2009 the Board of Directors voted to revise the OIDF IPR Process document. The revisions are primarily being made to help streamline the formation of work groups. A vote of the full membership is required to formally adopt the revised process. Marked and clean versions of the revised process document are viewable here: http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2009/10/OpenID_Process_Document__Modified_Edit_20090312_-clean1.pdf http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2009/10/OpenID_Process_Document__Modified_Edit_20090312_.pdf Thank you for your participation! Available Choices: * Approve * Reject * Abstain Thank you for your participation! --- The OpenID Foundation http://openid.net/foundation/ _______________________________________________ board mailing list board at lists.openid.net http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board _______________________________________________ board mailing list board at lists.openid.net http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board -- Chris Messina Open Web Advocate Personal: http://factoryjoe.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/chrismessina Citizen Agency: http://citizenagency.com Diso Project: http://diso-project.org OpenID Foundation: http://openid.net This email is: [ ] shareable [X] ask first [ ] private -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Unless > there are objections, I believe that we should post corrected versions and > proceed. > > > > Anyone opposed to this course of action? > > > > -- Mike > > > > *From:* openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto: > openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] *On Behalf Of *Chris Messina > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:06 PM > > *To:* openid-board at lists.openid.net > *Subject:* Re: [OpenID board] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened > > > > Indeed, there are two. > > > > And, as Eddy pointed out, there's a typo on Page 6. > > > > *"Only after if is ratified" *should be* "Only after if it is ratified"* > > > > Should we vote to reject on the basis of this typo? > > > > Chris > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:03 PM, David Recordon > wrote: > > Yes, but right now there are two polls open. Go and look in the voting > tool. :) > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Mike Jones > wrote: > > It?s a re-vote because the previous member vote failed to reach quorum. > > > > -- Mike > > > > *From:* openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto: > openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] *On Behalf Of *David Recordon > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:57 PM > *To:* board at openid.net > *Subject:* [OpenID board] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened > > > > There seems to be a duplicate poll here. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: > Date: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:49 PM > Subject: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened > To: recordond at gmail.com > > > Hello David Recordon , > > Voting has opened on the following poll -- please register your vote before > 2009-12-04. > > Link: > https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/19 > > Title: > Revised IPR Process Document > > Description: > On October 7, 2009 the Board of Directors voted to revise the OIDF IPR > Process document. The revisions are primarily being made to help > streamline the formation of work groups. A vote of the full membership > is required to formally adopt the revised process. Marked and clean > versions of the revised process document are viewable here: > > http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2009/10/OpenID_Process_Document__Modified_Edit_20090312_-clean1.pdf > > http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2009/10/OpenID_Process_Document__Modified_Edit_20090312_.pdf > > Thank you for your participation! > > Available Choices: > * Approve > * Reject > * Abstain > > Thank you for your participation! > > --- > The OpenID Foundation > http://openid.net/foundation/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > board at lists.openid.net > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board > > > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > board at lists.openid.net > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board > > > > > -- > Chris Messina > Open Web Advocate > > Personal: http://factoryjoe.com > Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/chrismessina > > Citizen Agency: http://citizenagency.com > Diso Project: http://diso-project.org > OpenID Foundation: http://openid.net > > This email is: [ ] shareable [X] ask first [ ] private > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > board at lists.openid.net > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chris.messina at gmail.com Thu Nov 19 02:16:54 2009 From: chris.messina at gmail.com (Chris Messina) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:16:54 -0800 Subject: [OpenID board] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened In-Reply-To: References: <4b04a43b2b862_4f35..fdc078b527553@hackberry.tmail> <1bc4603e0911181806m5c136d1fnb14b92b0d2907e58@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1bc4603e0911181816w6662dc51s5a2cb617a3a280e5@mail.gmail.com> I would support making the change proposed by Eddy: "Only after it is ratified" +1 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Mike Jones wrote: > The board should have the authority to correct typos that don?t change > the obvious meaning of the document without restarting the process. Unless > there are objections, I believe that we should post corrected versions and > proceed. > > > > Anyone opposed to this course of action? > > > > -- Mike > > > > *From:* openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto: > openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] *On Behalf Of *Chris Messina > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:06 PM > > *To:* openid-board at lists.openid.net > *Subject:* Re: [OpenID board] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened > > > > Indeed, there are two. > > > > And, as Eddy pointed out, there's a typo on Page 6. > > > > *"Only after if is ratified" *should be* "Only after if it is ratified"* > > > > Should we vote to reject on the basis of this typo? > > > > Chris > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:03 PM, David Recordon > wrote: > > Yes, but right now there are two polls open. Go and look in the voting > tool. :) > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Mike Jones > wrote: > > It?s a re-vote because the previous member vote failed to reach quorum. > > > > -- Mike > > > > *From:* openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto: > openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] *On Behalf Of *David Recordon > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:57 PM > *To:* board at openid.net > *Subject:* [OpenID board] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened > > > > There seems to be a duplicate poll here. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: > Date: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:49 PM > Subject: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened > To: recordond at gmail.com > > > Hello David Recordon , > > Voting has opened on the following poll -- please register your vote before > 2009-12-04. > > Link: > https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/19 > > Title: > Revised IPR Process Document > > Description: > On October 7, 2009 the Board of Directors voted to revise the OIDF IPR > Process document. The revisions are primarily being made to help > streamline the formation of work groups. A vote of the full membership > is required to formally adopt the revised process. Marked and clean > versions of the revised process document are viewable here: > > http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2009/10/OpenID_Process_Document__Modified_Edit_20090312_-clean1.pdf > > http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2009/10/OpenID_Process_Document__Modified_Edit_20090312_.pdf > > Thank you for your participation! > > Available Choices: > * Approve > * Reject > * Abstain > > Thank you for your participation! > > --- > The OpenID Foundation > http://openid.net/foundation/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > board at lists.openid.net > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board > > > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > board at lists.openid.net > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board > > > > > -- > Chris Messina > Open Web Advocate > > Personal: http://factoryjoe.com > Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/chrismessina > > Citizen Agency: http://citizenagency.com > Diso Project: http://diso-project.org > OpenID Foundation: http://openid.net > > This email is: [ ] shareable [X] ask first [ ] private > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > board at lists.openid.net > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board > > -- Chris Messina Open Web Advocate Personal: http://factoryjoe.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/chrismessina Citizen Agency: http://citizenagency.com Diso Project: http://diso-project.org OpenID Foundation: http://openid.net This email is: [ ] shareable [X] ask first [ ] private -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Brian ___________ Brian Kissel CEO, JanRain - WebID and Social Publishing for User Engagement 5331 SW Macadam Ave., Suite 375, Portland, OR 97239 Email: bkissel at janrain.com Cell: 503.866.4424 Fax: 503.296.5502 From: openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Mike Jones Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:14 PM To: openid-board at lists.openid.net Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened The board should have the authority to correct typos that don't change the obvious meaning of the document without restarting the process. Unless there are objections, I believe that we should post corrected versions and proceed. Anyone opposed to this course of action? -- Mike From: openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Chris Messina Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:06 PM To: openid-board at lists.openid.net Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened Indeed, there are two. And, as Eddy pointed out, there's a typo on Page 6. "Only after if is ratified" should be "Only after if it is ratified" Should we vote to reject on the basis of this typo? Chris On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:03 PM, David Recordon > wrote: Yes, but right now there are two polls open. Go and look in the voting tool. :) On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Mike Jones > wrote: It's a re-vote because the previous member vote failed to reach quorum. -- Mike From: openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of David Recordon Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:57 PM To: board at openid.net Subject: [OpenID board] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened There seems to be a duplicate poll here. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: > Date: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:49 PM Subject: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened To: recordond at gmail.com Hello David Recordon , Voting has opened on the following poll -- please register your vote before 2009-12-04. Link: https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/19 Title: Revised IPR Process Document Description: On October 7, 2009 the Board of Directors voted to revise the OIDF IPR Process document. The revisions are primarily being made to help streamline the formation of work groups. A vote of the full membership is required to formally adopt the revised process. Marked and clean versions of the revised process document are viewable here: http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2009/10/OpenID_Process_Document__Modified_Edit_20090312_-clean1.pdf http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2009/10/OpenID_Process_Document__Modified_Edit_20090312_.pdf Thank you for your participation! 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URL: From eddy_nigg at startcom.org Thu Nov 19 03:16:11 2009 From: eddy_nigg at startcom.org (Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:16:11 +0200 Subject: [OpenID board] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened In-Reply-To: <9EFEC10B74DE2B4794BAB1EA0A66A423072845F2@ivmx01.lan.inventures.com> References: <4b04a43b2b862_4f35..fdc078b527553@hackberry.tmail> <9EFEC10B74DE2B4794BAB1EA0A66A423072845F2@ivmx01.lan.inventures.com> Message-ID: <4B04B87B.6020204@startcom.org> On 11/19/2009 04:13 AM, John Ehrig: > > I do not know how that happened. I have asked Darin at Refresh Media > to delete one of the polls because I do not see a way for me to delete > a poll using the polling tool. > Anybody a clue why I receive "Bad response from OpenID server" when trying to authenticate with https://eddyn.startssl.com/ ? It used to work once... Regards Signer: Eddy Nigg, StartCom Ltd. XMPP: startcom at startcom.org Blog: Join the Revolution! 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URL: From n-sakimura at nri.co.jp Thu Nov 19 03:29:45 2009 From: n-sakimura at nri.co.jp (Nat Sakimura) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:29:45 +0900 Subject: [OpenID board] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened In-Reply-To: References: <4b04a43b2b862_4f35..fdc078b527553@hackberry.tmail> <1bc4603e0911181806m5c136d1fnb14b92b0d2907e58@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B04BBA9.2050808@nri.co.jp> +1 (2009/11/19 11:14), Mike Jones wrote: > > The board should have the authority to correct typos that don't change > the obvious meaning of the document without restarting the process. > Unless there are objections, I believe that we should post corrected > versions and proceed. > > Anyone opposed to this course of action? > > -- Mike > > *From:* openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net > [mailto:openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] *On Behalf Of *Chris > Messina > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:06 PM > *To:* openid-board at lists.openid.net > *Subject:* Re: [OpenID board] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened > > Indeed, there are two. > > And, as Eddy pointed out, there's a typo on Page 6. > > *"Only after if is ratified" *should be* "Only after if it is ratified"* > > Should we vote to reject on the basis of this typo? > > Chris > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:03 PM, David Recordon > wrote: > > Yes, but right now there are two polls open. Go and look in the > voting tool. :) > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Mike Jones > > wrote: > > It's a re-vote because the previous member vote failed to reach > quorum. > > -- > Mike > > *From:* openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net > > [mailto:openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net > ] *On Behalf Of > *David Recordon > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:57 PM > *To:* board at openid.net > *Subject:* [OpenID board] Fwd: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened > > There seems to be a duplicate poll here. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: > > Date: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:49 PM > Subject: [OpenID Foundation] New Poll Opened > To: recordond at gmail.com > > > Hello David Recordon , > > Voting has opened on the following poll -- please register your > vote before 2009-12-04. > > Link: > https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/19 > > Title: > Revised IPR Process Document > > Description: > On October 7, 2009 the Board of Directors voted to revise the OIDF IPR > Process document. The revisions are primarily being made to help > streamline the formation of work groups. A vote of the full membership > is required to formally adopt the revised process. Marked and clean > versions of the revised process document are viewable here: > http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2009/10/OpenID_Process_Document__Modified_Edit_20090312_-clean1.pdf > http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2009/10/OpenID_Process_Document__Modified_Edit_20090312_.pdf > > Thank you for your participation! > > Available Choices: > * Approve > * Reject > * Abstain > > Thank you for your participation! > > --- > The OpenID Foundation > http://openid.net/foundation/ > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > board at lists.openid.net > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board > > > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > board at lists.openid.net > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board > > > > > -- > Chris Messina > Open Web Advocate > > Personal: http://factoryjoe.com > Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/chrismessina > > Citizen Agency: http://citizenagency.com > Diso Project: http://diso-project.org > OpenID Foundation: http://openid.net > > This email is: [ ] shareable [X] ask first [ ] private > > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > board at lists.openid.net > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jehrig at inventures.com Thu Nov 19 03:55:30 2009 From: jehrig at inventures.com (John Ehrig) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:55:30 -0800 Subject: [OpenID board] IPR Process Document Poll Duplicate has been Deleted Message-ID: <9EFEC10B74DE2B4794BAB1EA0A66A423072845F4@ivmx01.lan.inventures.com> Darin at Refresh Media very quickly fixed the duplicate poll. The first poll is closed and the votes from the first poll are moved to the second (open) poll. All the links in the email will take members the second (open) poll. Thank you, Darin! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Michael.Jones at microsoft.com Thu Nov 19 04:10:31 2009 From: Michael.Jones at microsoft.com (Mike Jones) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:10:31 +0000 Subject: [OpenID board] IPR Process Document Poll Duplicate has been Deleted In-Reply-To: <9EFEC10B74DE2B4794BAB1EA0A66A423072845F4@ivmx01.lan.inventures.com> References: <9EFEC10B74DE2B4794BAB1EA0A66A423072845F4@ivmx01.lan.inventures.com> Message-ID: Thanks, John and Darin! -- Mike From: openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of John Ehrig Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:56 PM To: openid-board at lists.openid.net Subject: [OpenID board] IPR Process Document Poll Duplicate has been Deleted Darin at Refresh Media very quickly fixed the duplicate poll. The first poll is closed and the votes from the first poll are moved to the second (open) poll. All the links in the email will take members the second (open) poll. 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