[OpenID board] [board-private] Reminder: OIDF BOD vote on Nat's 4 spec process improvement motions

Nat Sakimura sakimura at gmail.com
Sun Jan 18 05:31:52 UTC 2009


Wow Thanks! Chris.

=nat

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Chris Messina <chris.messina at gmail.com>wrote:

> I've gone ahead and filled out the template that I created just to see
> if this kind of page would be helpful for such a vote:
>
> https://openid.pbwiki.com/Vote%3A-Spec-Process-Improvement
>
> Feedback/tweaks are of course welcome.
>
> Chris
>
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Brian Kissel <bkissel at janrain.com> wrote:
> > Yes, this is the discussion period.  The vote will start next Friday and
> be
> > open for a week or until we have the required number of votes to approve
> or
> > reject the motions.  If the motions get modified during the discussion
> > period, I will upload the final versions into the voting tool.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > ==============
> >
> > Brian Kissel
> >
> > Cell: 503.866.4424
> >
> > Fax: 503.296.5502
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Nat Sakimura [mailto:sakimura at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:05 PM
> > To: Brian Kissel
> > Cc: board at openid.net
> > Subject: Re: [OpenID board] [board-private] Reminder: OIDF BOD vote on
> Nat's
> > 4 spec process improvement motions
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, actually, I do not think we need to wait.
> >
> > This is the discussion period before the voting (1 week?).
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Brian Kissel <bkissel at janrain.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > OK, I will wait on putting any of the 4 proposals into the voting tool
> until
> > the day before the election.  Please send me the final versions of each
> of
> > your motions by next Thursday.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > ==============
> >
> > Brian Kissel
> >
> > Cell: 503.866.4424
> >
> > Fax: 503.296.5502
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Nat Sakimura [mailto:sakimura at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:57 PM
> >
> > To: Brian Kissel
> > Cc: board at openid.net
> > Subject: Re: [OpenID board] [board-private] Reminder: OIDF BOD vote on
> Nat's
> > 4 spec process improvement motions
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > The fourth one was modified as par discussion with David, though I also
> want
> > to hear what other people feels like.
> >
> > =nat
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Brian Kissel <bkissel at janrain.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > OK, so the first 3 were correct as stated?
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > ==============
> >
> > Brian Kissel
> >
> > Cell: 503.866.4424
> >
> > Fax: 503.296.5502
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Nat Sakimura [mailto:sakimura at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:50 PM
> > To: Brian Kissel
> > Cc: board at openid.net
> >
> > Subject: Re: [OpenID board] [board-private] Reminder: OIDF BOD vote on
> Nat's
> > 4 spec process improvement motions
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes. Preferably, not wiki (because it's a bit too easy to edit...) but
> > something like bbs with voting facility :-)
> >
> > Anyhow, here is my modified motion 4.
> >
> > BE IT RESOLVED that the members of OpenID Foundation board have agreed to
> > amend the OpenID process document to clarify that no draft may claim
> OpenID
> > trademark until it is ratified to be a specification.
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Brian Kissel <bkissel at janrain.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Agreed, the wiki or something like it would be a better way to keep the
> > proposal and discussion in one organized space. Nat, what do you think?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Brian
> > ==============
> > Brian Kissel
> > Cell: 503.866.4424
> > Fax: 503.296.5502
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: board-bounces at openid.net [mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] On
> Behalf
> > Of Chris Messina
> > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 3:43 PM
> > To: board at openid.net
> > Subject: Re: [OpenID board] [board-private] Reminder: OIDF BOD vote on
> Nat's
> > 4 spec process improvement motions
> >
> > Would be great if Nat would add this to the wiki -- if only to try out
> > such a process and determine whether it works or not. I fear that
> > we're losing a lot of context/detail/accuracy by posting these kinds
> > of communications in multi-threaded emails.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Brian Kissel <bkissel at janrain.com>
> wrote:
> >> Nat, is there a more current version than this?  The actual text of your
> >> proposal, which I took from your email, was the text I was intending to
> put
> >> into the board polling tool.
> >>
> >> If there is a more current version, please send it to me.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Brian
> >> ==============
> >> Brian Kissel
> >> Cell: 503.866.4424
> >> Fax: 503.296.5502
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: board-private-bounces at openid.net
> >> [mailto:board-private-bounces at openid.net] On Behalf Of David Recordon
> >> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 3:36 PM
> >> To: board-private at openid.net
> >> Cc: board at openid.net
> >> Subject: Re: [board-private] Reminder: OIDF BOD vote on Nat's 4 spec
> >> process improvement motions
> >>
> >> Hey Brian,
> >> I don't believe this captures the latest motions that Nat made.
> >>
> >> --David
> >>
> >> On Jan 16, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Brian Kissel wrote:
> >>
> >>> When: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:00 AM-6:30 AM (GMT-08:00) Pacific
> >>> Time (US & Canada).
> >>>
> >>> *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
> >>>
> >>> FYI, this is a reminder that the online vote for Nat's four motions
> >>> will start on Friday Jan 23rd.
> >>>
> >>> Followings are the proposed motions that I would like the board to
> >>> consider. There are two types: one that can take effect immediately,
> >>> and one that requires board and membership voting.
> >>>
> >>> I. For immediate implementation of the current process:
> >>>
> >>> One of the obstacles that we have found during the process was that
> >>> it was kind of hard to get the specs council to deliver the
> >>> recommendation in a timely fashion. It has seen some improvement
> >>> recently, but we want to make sure to continue it. Thus, I would
> >>> like to propose the following:
> >>>
> >>> BE IT RESOLVED that the OIDF Committee Liason is directed to act as
> >>> the coordinator for the specification council so that specification
> >>> council create a recommendation for the membership about a formal
> >>> working group proposal within 15 days of the complete proposal being
> >>> circulated on specs at openid.net to comply to the current OpenID
> >>> process.
> >>> II. Improvements of curent porcess
> >>>
> >>> As a longer term solution, I would like to propose the following
> >>> three motions. The first two are to make sure the timely and
> >>> effective response from the specs council, and the last one is to
> >>> protect the OpenID(TM) as well as to make it easier to create a WG
> >>> so that all the discussion will be done inside the WG and the output
> >>> is IPR clean.
> >>>
> >>> BE IT RESOLVED that the members of OpenID Foundation board have
> >>> agreed to amend the OpenID process document so that should the
> >>> specifications council not create a recommendation for the
> >>> membership about a formal working group proposal within 15 days of
> >>> the complete proposal being circulated on specs at openid.net, then the
> >>> proposal may proceed to a membership vote for approval.
> >>> BE IT RESOLVED that the members of OpenID Foundation board have
> >>> agreed to amend the OpenID process document so that should specs
> >>> council members not participate in the discussion of two consecutive
> >>> working group proposals, they will be deemed to have resigned, and
> >>> new specs council members who are committed to participating in the
> >>> process will be appointed to replace them.
> >>> BE IT RESOLVED that the members of OpenID Foundation board have
> >>> agreed to amend the OpenID process document to clarify that no draft
> >>> may claim OpenID trademark until it is ratified to be an
> >>> implementor's draft status or full specification status.
> >>>
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