[OpenID board] [board-private] Reminder: OIDF BOD vote on Nat's 4 spec process improvement motions

Chris Messina chris.messina at gmail.com
Sat Jan 17 22:01:46 UTC 2009


I've gone ahead and filled out the template that I created just to see
if this kind of page would be helpful for such a vote:

https://openid.pbwiki.com/Vote%3A-Spec-Process-Improvement

Feedback/tweaks are of course welcome.

Chris

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Brian Kissel <bkissel at janrain.com> wrote:
> Yes, this is the discussion period.  The vote will start next Friday and be
> open for a week or until we have the required number of votes to approve or
> reject the motions.  If the motions get modified during the discussion
> period, I will upload the final versions into the voting tool.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
>
> ==============
>
> Brian Kissel
>
> Cell: 503.866.4424
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> Fax: 503.296.5502
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>
>
> From: Nat Sakimura [mailto:sakimura at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:05 PM
> To: Brian Kissel
> Cc: board at openid.net
> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] [board-private] Reminder: OIDF BOD vote on Nat's
> 4 spec process improvement motions
>
>
>
> Well, actually, I do not think we need to wait.
>
> This is the discussion period before the voting (1 week?).
>
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Brian Kissel <bkissel at janrain.com> wrote:
>
> OK, I will wait on putting any of the 4 proposals into the voting tool until
> the day before the election.  Please send me the final versions of each of
> your motions by next Thursday.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
>
> ==============
>
> Brian Kissel
>
> Cell: 503.866.4424
>
> Fax: 503.296.5502
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>
>
> From: Nat Sakimura [mailto:sakimura at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:57 PM
>
> To: Brian Kissel
> Cc: board at openid.net
> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] [board-private] Reminder: OIDF BOD vote on Nat's
> 4 spec process improvement motions
>
>
>
> Yes.
>
> The fourth one was modified as par discussion with David, though I also want
> to hear what other people feels like.
>
> =nat
>
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Brian Kissel <bkissel at janrain.com> wrote:
>
> OK, so the first 3 were correct as stated?
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
>
> ==============
>
> Brian Kissel
>
> Cell: 503.866.4424
>
> Fax: 503.296.5502
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>
>
> From: Nat Sakimura [mailto:sakimura at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:50 PM
> To: Brian Kissel
> Cc: board at openid.net
>
> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] [board-private] Reminder: OIDF BOD vote on Nat's
> 4 spec process improvement motions
>
>
>
> Yes. Preferably, not wiki (because it's a bit too easy to edit...) but
> something like bbs with voting facility :-)
>
> Anyhow, here is my modified motion 4.
>
> BE IT RESOLVED that the members of OpenID Foundation board have agreed to
> amend the OpenID process document to clarify that no draft may claim OpenID
> trademark until it is ratified to be a specification.
>
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Brian Kissel <bkissel at janrain.com> wrote:
>
> Agreed, the wiki or something like it would be a better way to keep the
> proposal and discussion in one organized space. Nat, what do you think?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
> ==============
> Brian Kissel
> Cell: 503.866.4424
> Fax: 503.296.5502
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: board-bounces at openid.net [mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] On Behalf
> Of Chris Messina
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 3:43 PM
> To: board at openid.net
> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] [board-private] Reminder: OIDF BOD vote on Nat's
> 4 spec process improvement motions
>
> Would be great if Nat would add this to the wiki -- if only to try out
> such a process and determine whether it works or not. I fear that
> we're losing a lot of context/detail/accuracy by posting these kinds
> of communications in multi-threaded emails.
>
> Chris
>
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Brian Kissel <bkissel at janrain.com> wrote:
>> Nat, is there a more current version than this?  The actual text of your
>> proposal, which I took from your email, was the text I was intending to put
>> into the board polling tool.
>>
>> If there is a more current version, please send it to me.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Brian
>> ==============
>> Brian Kissel
>> Cell: 503.866.4424
>> Fax: 503.296.5502
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: board-private-bounces at openid.net
>> [mailto:board-private-bounces at openid.net] On Behalf Of David Recordon
>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 3:36 PM
>> To: board-private at openid.net
>> Cc: board at openid.net
>> Subject: Re: [board-private] Reminder: OIDF BOD vote on Nat's 4 spec
>> process improvement motions
>>
>> Hey Brian,
>> I don't believe this captures the latest motions that Nat made.
>>
>> --David
>>
>> On Jan 16, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Brian Kissel wrote:
>>
>>> When: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:00 AM-6:30 AM (GMT-08:00) Pacific
>>> Time (US & Canada).
>>>
>>> *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
>>>
>>> FYI, this is a reminder that the online vote for Nat's four motions
>>> will start on Friday Jan 23rd.
>>>
>>> Followings are the proposed motions that I would like the board to
>>> consider. There are two types: one that can take effect immediately,
>>> and one that requires board and membership voting.
>>>
>>> I. For immediate implementation of the current process:
>>>
>>> One of the obstacles that we have found during the process was that
>>> it was kind of hard to get the specs council to deliver the
>>> recommendation in a timely fashion. It has seen some improvement
>>> recently, but we want to make sure to continue it. Thus, I would
>>> like to propose the following:
>>>
>>> BE IT RESOLVED that the OIDF Committee Liason is directed to act as
>>> the coordinator for the specification council so that specification
>>> council create a recommendation for the membership about a formal
>>> working group proposal within 15 days of the complete proposal being
>>> circulated on specs at openid.net to comply to the current OpenID
>>> process.
>>> II. Improvements of curent porcess
>>>
>>> As a longer term solution, I would like to propose the following
>>> three motions. The first two are to make sure the timely and
>>> effective response from the specs council, and the last one is to
>>> protect the OpenID(TM) as well as to make it easier to create a WG
>>> so that all the discussion will be done inside the WG and the output
>>> is IPR clean.
>>>
>>> BE IT RESOLVED that the members of OpenID Foundation board have
>>> agreed to amend the OpenID process document so that should the
>>> specifications council not create a recommendation for the
>>> membership about a formal working group proposal within 15 days of
>>> the complete proposal being circulated on specs at openid.net, then the
>>> proposal may proceed to a membership vote for approval.
>>> BE IT RESOLVED that the members of OpenID Foundation board have
>>> agreed to amend the OpenID process document so that should specs
>>> council members not participate in the discussion of two consecutive
>>> working group proposals, they will be deemed to have resigned, and
>>> new specs council members who are committed to participating in the
>>> process will be appointed to replace them.
>>> BE IT RESOLVED that the members of OpenID Foundation board have
>>> agreed to amend the OpenID process document to clarify that no draft
>>> may claim OpenID trademark until it is ratified to be an
>>> implementor's draft status or full specification status.
>>>
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