[OpenID board] First board meeting of 2009 ...

Chris Messina chris.messina at gmail.com
Wed Jan 7 07:05:16 UTC 2009


Specifically:
http://wiki.openid.net/Bylaws#ARTICLEVIOfficers

My impression, however, is that the bylaws here are incomplete -- in that
they don't mention corporate membership. Is that correct?

It would seem that first order of business will be to modify and update the
bylaws, no?

Chris

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Johannes Ernst <jernst at netmesh.us> wrote:

> There are in the bylaws.
>
> It'd be great if the new board reviewed those, adjusted if needed, and if
> the new officers committed to doing what it says there.
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 6, 2009, at 22:13, Nat Sakimura wrote:
>
>  By the way, is there a job description for each officer seats noted
>> somewhere?
>>
>> I would love to see it.
>>
>> =nat
>>
>> Scott Kveton wrote:
>>
>>> +1 ... this would be a great thing to clarify in the by-laws ... I'll
>>> make a note of it.
>>>
>>> - Scott
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Mike Jones <Michael.Jones at microsoft.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  I am a board member appointed by Microsoft just like you are a board
>>>> member elected by the membership.  Both of us serve as individuals, albeit,
>>>> with different procedures that granted us our board seats (both of which
>>>> procedures were approved by the previous board).
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft's membership class in OIDF gives them a right to appoint a
>>>> board member.  The corporation is not the board member.
>>>>
>>>> Should I no longer be Microsoft's board representative (as they do have
>>>> the right to replace me) and I am elected to an officer position, that
>>>> position would go vacant and the vacancy would have to be filled a special
>>>> officer election by the board.
>>>>
>>>> You would be choosing me -- not Microsoft.  Hope this clarifies things.
>>>>
>>>>                              -- Mike
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: board-bounces at openid.net [mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] On
>>>> Behalf Of David Recordon
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:12 PM
>>>> To: board at openid.net
>>>> Cc: =nat
>>>> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] First board meeting of 2009 ...
>>>>
>>>> Mike et al,
>>>> I think some of where this breaks down is around who the board member
>>>> is.  My understanding is that Microsoft -- the corporation -- is a
>>>> board member who is represented by Mike Jones -- the person.  I thus
>>>> do not see how it makes sense for Microsoft to hold an officer
>>>> position within the Foundation.
>>>>
>>>> --David
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 6, 2009, at 12:15 AM, Mike Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  You can find the last set of approved bylaws at
>>>>> http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2008/11/adopted-bylaws-openid-foundation-june-2007.pdf
>>>>> .  Unfortunately, they're so old as to not even discuss the addition
>>>>> of the new corporate board members.  (Updating to bylaws to match
>>>>> the reality of the decisions made by the board in the last year-and-
>>>>> a-half is one of the things that just plain didn't happen during
>>>>> this board's tenure.)
>>>>>
>>>>> As for being one board, we clarified this point by a vote of the
>>>>> board on April 24th, 2008.  The minutes record this motion passing
>>>>> unanimously:
>>>>>
>>>>> Motion 1: Henceforward, all votes about any matters affecting OIDF
>>>>> and its board will be open to all board members.
>>>>> As per normal ethical conduct guidelines, individual board members
>>>>> are expected to recuse themselves in cases of conflicts of interest.
>>>>>
>>>>> While the text of the motion only talks about votes, the spirit of
>>>>> what we clarifying with the motion was best summed up in David
>>>>> Recordon's message of April 21st, 2008:  "+1 to Mike's motion.
>>>>> We're one board. :)".
>>>>>
>>>>> Other than that they are selected via different mechanisms and that
>>>>> there must always be at least one more community corporate board
>>>>> member than corporate board member, there's no difference in the
>>>>> rights and responsibilities of the two kinds of board members.
>>>>>
>>>>> To make this concrete, I believe that it would benefit the
>>>>> foundation if I were elected to one of the officer positions --
>>>>> possibly Vice-President, but would be open to other possibilities.
>>>>> The reason that I believe you want me as an officer is that I have a
>>>>> strong, demonstrated track record of getting things done for the
>>>>> foundation.  Those things include (in roughly reverse chronological
>>>>> order) chairing the elections committee (which brought you the
>>>>> recent election), starting and co-chairing the PAPE working group
>>>>> (demonstrating that the IPR policy works and producing a useful
>>>>> spec), serving on the specs council and trying to get it to respond
>>>>> in a timely fashion (still a work in progress), co-chairing the
>>>>> local chapters committee (which brought you the approved local
>>>>> chapters policy), and shepherding the process of writing and getting
>>>>> approval for the IPR policy and procedures.
>>>>>
>>>>>                             Best wishes,
>>>>>                             -- Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: board-bounces at openid.net [mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] On
>>>>> Behalf Of chris.messina at gmail.com
>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:58 PM
>>>>> To: Raj Mata
>>>>> Cc: board at openid.net; =nat
>>>>> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] First board meeting of 2009 ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone point me to the bylaws concerning corporate membership? I'd
>>>>> like to understand more about the restrictions or responsibilities (if
>>>>> any) placed on such memberships.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/5/09, Raj Mata <rajmata at yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just got back from vacation, and have been catching up on my emails.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First of all, wish everyone a terrific 2009!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Second, congratulations to the new board members (and thank you
>>>>>> Mike for
>>>>>> making the elections a reality!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding this thread below, my understanding is:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a) The executive committee is comprised of 5 board members (The four
>>>>>> current officers called out by Scott below + a working group
>>>>>> liaison as
>>>>>> called out by Mike)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> b) There is no requirement or distinction between corporate or
>>>>>> community
>>>>>> members for the executive committee i.e. the executive committee
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> theoretically be all 5 community board members or all 5 corporate
>>>>>> board
>>>>>> members. Once we have a board, then it is purely a matter of
>>>>>> picking the
>>>>>> right people from the board who have the skills and bandwidth to do
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> job.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did I get that right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Raj
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: board-bounces at openid.net [mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Mike Jones
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:04 AM
>>>>>> To: board at openid.net; Chris Messina
>>>>>> Cc: =nat
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] First board meeting of 2009 ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm the 5th board member on the current Executive Committee -- in the
>>>>>> role of liaison to the working groups.  I'm also one of two
>>>>>> board-appointed members to the Specifications Council.  (The other is
>>>>>> Dick Hardt.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                            -- Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: board-bounces at openid.net [mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Scott Kveton
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 10:59 AM
>>>>>> To: Chris Messina
>>>>>> Cc: board at openid.net; =nat
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] First board meeting of 2009 ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  The 8th is good for me as well.
>>>>>>> Which officer positions are available, how do we go about picking
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  them, and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  who served them on the previous board? Are there any transition
>>>>>>> plans?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  All of the officer positions are available ... we have to fill and
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> is currently in them:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chair - Scott Kveton
>>>>>> Vice-Chair - David Recordon
>>>>>> Secretary - Martin Atkins
>>>>>> Treasurer - Dick Hardt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Executive Committee is made up of these officers and one member
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the corporate board and was put together to help execute on things
>>>>>> without having the entire board involved in every decision.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The transition plan should be easy enough.  Bill Washburn has cooked
>>>>>> up a transition plan for the ED (once we figure out what we're doing
>>>>>> there) and I've been involved in the finances enough to be able to
>>>>>> help with that as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We'll want to make sure we transition the committees
>>>>>> appropriately ...
>>>>>> I don't think there is any requirement that committees be made up or
>>>>>> chaired by board members but we'll want to make sure that everything
>>>>>> is taken care of.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Scott
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