[OpenID board] [OpenID] Google Groups for your domain

Eric Sachs esachs at google.com
Tue Dec 15 02:37:35 UTC 2009


>> Google Group's spam handling and moderation tools aren't perfect, but
they destroy Mailman's from a day-to-day mgmt perspective.

There was apparently some massive improvement in spam handling pushed out
last week to Google Groups.  I don't know that team will, but I heard they
had a big party after seeing the results.

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Chris Messina <chris.messina at gmail.com>wrote:

> +1 to preserving the archive links, of course.
>
> I'll add that having to moderate lists using Mailman gives me a conniption.
>
> Google Group's spam handling and moderation tools aren't perfect, but they
> destroy Mailman's from a day-to-day mgmt perspective.
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:05 PM, David Recordon <recordond at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Yes, I don't see how we could make this change without both preserving
>> the archives at their current URLs and importing the mailing list
>> history into the new groups.
>>
>> --David
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Mike Jones <Michael.Jones at microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Would the existing archives be preserved, including the links to the
>> messages?  They're an important part of the archives of the organization,
>> and I would be against a change where they're lost.
>> >
>> >                                -- Mike
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:
>> openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of David Recordon
>> > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:44 PM
>> > To: openid-board at lists.openid.net
>> > Cc: OpenID Board (public)
>> > Subject: Re: [OpenID board] [OpenID] Google Groups for your domain
>> >
>> > Hey Mike,
>> > Mailman is quite painful to administer and the web archives are
>> > archaic. Google Groups removes all of the administration headaches,
>> > makes it drastically easier to moderate a mailing list, and provides a
>> > modern public web interface which includes powerful search
>> > functionality.
>> >
>> > The only reason we didn't move to Google Groups a few years ago was
>> > that they weren't offerred on your own domain name.
>> >
>> > --David
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:41 AM, Mike Jones <
>> Michael.Jones at microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >> Maybe I missed the thread, but what is the advantage of making a change
>> when we already have working mailing lists?  There seems like more risk than
>> benefit to doing this.
>> >>
>> >>                                -- Mike
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:
>> openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of David Recordon
>> >> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:32 PM
>> >> To: Nat Sakimura
>> >> Cc: OpenID Board (public); openid-board at lists.openid.net
>> >> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] [OpenID] Google Groups for your domain
>> >>
>> >> Hey Nat,
>> >> Why do we need a motion?  Not a single person objected when I started
>> >> the thread.
>> >>
>> >> Less bureaucracy, not more. :)
>> >>
>> >> --David
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Nat Sakimura <sakimura at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>> Let us make this to an item for the next board meeting so that we can
>> >>> make a motion to do it.
>> >>>
>> >>> I am +1 on making transition as long as it can be done smoothly.
>> >>> At the same time, we must make a habit of doing it a bit more formally
>> >>> than just making move.
>> >>>
>> >>> The same applies to the move to github from svn.openid.net.
>> >>> (Though, this one may have some implication because it changes the
>> domain name
>> >>>  and github is harder to go through corporate firewalls.)
>> >>>
>> >>> =nat
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Chris Messina <
>> chris.messina at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Moving this to the board list, since I'd like to see action/outcome
>> taken
>> >>>> against Dave's proposal.
>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:19 PM, David Recordon <recordond at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I'm going to ask the Google folks if they can set us up with a
>> Google
>> >>>>> Apps account and see what's involved in converting over and
>> importing
>> >>>>> our mailing lists.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Dave: any follow up on this? What would it take to move over to
>> Google
>> >>>> Apps?
>> >>>> Chris
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
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