[OpenID board] [OpenID] Google Groups for your domain

Tue Dec 15 02:29:16 UTC 2009

+1 to preserving the archive links, of course.

I'll add that having to moderate lists using Mailman gives me a conniption.

Google Group's spam handling and moderation tools aren't perfect, but they
destroy Mailman's from a day-to-day mgmt perspective.

Chris

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:05 PM, David Recordon <recordond at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, I don't see how we could make this change without both preserving
> the archives at their current URLs and importing the mailing list
> history into the new groups.
>
> --David
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Mike Jones <Michael.Jones at microsoft.com>
> wrote:
> > Would the existing archives be preserved, including the links to the
> messages?  They're an important part of the archives of the organization,
> and I would be against a change where they're lost.
> >
> >                                -- Mike
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:
> openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of David Recordon
> > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:44 PM
> > To: openid-board at lists.openid.net
> > Cc: OpenID Board (public)
> > Subject: Re: [OpenID board] [OpenID] Google Groups for your domain
> >
> > Hey Mike,
> > Mailman is quite painful to administer and the web archives are
> > archaic. Google Groups removes all of the administration headaches,
> > makes it drastically easier to moderate a mailing list, and provides a
> > modern public web interface which includes powerful search
> > functionality.
> >
> > The only reason we didn't move to Google Groups a few years ago was
> > that they weren't offerred on your own domain name.
> >
> > --David
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:41 AM, Mike Jones <Michael.Jones at microsoft.com>
> wrote:
> >> Maybe I missed the thread, but what is the advantage of making a change
> when we already have working mailing lists?  There seems like more risk than
> benefit to doing this.
> >>
> >>                                -- Mike
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:
> openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of David Recordon
> >> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:32 PM
> >> To: Nat Sakimura
> >> Cc: OpenID Board (public); openid-board at lists.openid.net
> >> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] [OpenID] Google Groups for your domain
> >>
> >> Hey Nat,
> >> Why do we need a motion?  Not a single person objected when I started
> >> the thread.
> >>
> >> Less bureaucracy, not more. :)
> >>
> >> --David
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Nat Sakimura <sakimura at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Let us make this to an item for the next board meeting so that we can
> >>> make a motion to do it.
> >>>
> >>> I am +1 on making transition as long as it can be done smoothly.
> >>> At the same time, we must make a habit of doing it a bit more formally
> >>> than just making move.
> >>>
> >>> The same applies to the move to github from svn.openid.net.
> >>> (Though, this one may have some implication because it changes the
> domain name
> >>>  and github is harder to go through corporate firewalls.)
> >>>
> >>> =nat
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Chris Messina <
> chris.messina at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Moving this to the board list, since I'd like to see action/outcome
> taken
> >>>> against Dave's proposal.
> >>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:19 PM, David Recordon <recordond at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm going to ask the Google folks if they can set us up with a Google
> >>>>> Apps account and see what's involved in converting over and importing
> >>>>> our mailing lists.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave: any follow up on this? What would it take to move over to Google
> >>>> Apps?
> >>>> Chris
> >>>>
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