[OpenID board] [board-private] OP Matrix

Chris Messina chris.messina at gmail.com
Fri Dec 11 01:40:51 UTC 2009


I'm happy to take a crack at it — perhaps I can do something this weekend.

Chris

On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Brian Kissel <bkissel at janrain.com> wrote:

>  Thanks to everyone for the feedback.
>
>
>
> So is anyone willing to spend some time making the table of OP capabilities
> more aesthetically pleasing and adding whatever comments and disclaimers we
> want to add?
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> A lot of work has been put in by a number of people to get this working
> draft ready for publication.  This was a specific take away action item from
> the IIW OP Office Hours session.  It may not be perfect, and it will
> certainly evolve as we progress, but let’s get something that’s good enough
> out there to show the great progress that OPs are making and to highlight
> areas where we’re still expanding and improving.  If we can’t find a home
> for it on the OIDF website, JanRain is glad to host it since our clients and
> prospects are always asking for this information.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Brian
>
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> *Brian Kissel <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/0/10/254>*
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> *CEO, JanRain - **WebID and Social Publishing for User Engagement*
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> *Email*: bkissel at janrain.com     *Cell*: 503.866.4424     *Fax*:
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> *From:* openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net [mailto:
> openid-board-bounces at lists.openid.net] *On Behalf Of *David Recordon
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 06, 2009 9:20 PM
> *To:* openid-board at lists.openid.net
> *Subject:* Re: [OpenID board] [board-private] OP Matrix
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>
> Moving this to the public list since broader feedback will be useful as we
> clean up this information. :)
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> Like Chris, I'm interested in seeing how we can make this information more
> actionable.  What does this mean for a site owner when they're choosing
> their "nascar"?  Or as a user how does this information help me choose my
> provider.
>
>
>
> --David
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Chris Messina <chris.messina at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> In its current state, this matrix is likely to confuse.
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> As well "matrix" is not a word that I think will make sense to many people.
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> We currently see around 6% of our traffic going this page. The next page
> they visit is Getting Started (
> http://openid.net//add-openid/add-getting-started/<http://openid.net/add-openid/add-getting-started/>).
> I think this kind of detailed information belongs on that page.
>
>
>
> Concrete proposals:
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>
> 1. The matrix feels more like second-tier documentation... while it is very
> valuable information, we should be careful about just adding links and tabs
> to the website without longer term consideration. Can we provide a link that
> reads "Learn more about current [OpenID provider capability]" at the very
> bottom of the "Add OpenID" page?
>
> 2. That matrix is full of information...! And ugly as heck. It's worth
> cleaning it up if we're going to present it for public consumption. Can we
> get Darrin or someone else with a design eye to take a crack at making it
> public-presentable?
>
> 3. Can we focus the take-aways from the matrix to a few clear items?
> Specifically, I think saying who provides verified email, profile data, and
> who has access to what number of active monthly users are the operative bits
> of information. The current matrix weaves together technical capabilities
> with stats that we can use to argue for adopting OpenID. At the very least,
> we need to call out the stuff that makes the [business] case for adopting
> OpenID in the first place, and THEN provide information that developers can
> use.
>
>
>
> Happy to provide more feedback, but I do not want to see this matrix just
> thrown on the site because it's "data complete".
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Brian Kissel <bkissel at janrain.com> wrote:
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>   Hi Guys,
>
>
>
> So I think we’re ready to publish the OP matrix.  John, can you find a
> suitable place on the OIDF website to provide this text and link.
>
>
>
> *Identity Provider Capability Matrix *
> http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tNv5ZWQD5wzK4luDFn0anmw&output=html
>
> * *
>
> The following matrix attempts to characterize the offerings of many of the
> user managed identity providers along dimensions including user base
> description, identity services, address book and feed services, security,
> data elements supported, and security enhancements.  Some of the attributes
> are subjective and qualitative in nature and some data may be missing for
> certain providers.
>
>
>
> Definitions, descriptions, and clarifying notes for each element in the
> table are summarized in columns A and B under the matrix.
>
>
>
> The intent of this document it to share the significant progress being made
> by each of the major identity providers in expanding and improving their
> offerings for the benefit of website operators and end users.  This will be
> updated at least quarterly by each of the identity providers, so feel free
> to come back to find the latest information.
>
>
>
> If there is additional information you would like to see displayed in this
> matrix or you feel there are errors, please provide comments below (hoping
> we can put a feedback tool here so users can give us direct input).
>
>
>
>
>
> Maybe a good place would be a new top level nav entry on this page:
> http://openid.net/add-openid/
>
>
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> Insert a new tab after “Getting Started” but before “Become an OpenID
> Provider” that says “OpenID Provider Matrix” or something like that.
>
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>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Brian
>
> *___________*
>
> * *
>
> *Brian Kissel <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/0/10/254>*
>
> *CEO, JanRain - WebID and Social Publishing for User Engagement*
>
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