[OpenID board] Might Miss the Call

Mike Jones Michael.Jones at microsoft.com
Fri May 9 02:55:10 UTC 2008

My apologies then.  I took your sentence "I do not think Local Chapters policy needs to wait for the completion of such." as your agreement to proceed to approve the revised local chapters policy without the procedures yet being defined for recognition of national chapters, with the understanding that we would work on that separately, and when ready, approve them as a second document complementary to the local chapters policy.

As a pragmatic matter, no reference is needed to a national chapters policy in the local chapters policy for a national chapters policy to be adopted, therefore the document as approved today in no way impedes the creation and adoption of a national chapters policy.  Furthermore, until such time as one is adopted, the deleted language about how the OIDF may choose identify a local chapter as a designated national chapter gains potential national chapters nothing, because the OIDF would not ever recognize a national chapter without a national chapters policy being in place anyway.  And in the mean time, the now-approved draft is actually cleaner without this dangling reference to a not-yet-defined national chapters policy.

Finally, I'll add that the approved policy achieved your major goal of enabling people to be members of local chapters without a requirement for them to also join the OIDF.

Therefore, I would politely ask that OpenID Japan choose to become a local chapter of the OIDF under the approved policy at this time (a policy that you get a lot of credit for creating!).

We can then continue to do more good work together on creating a national chapters policy that is complementary to the local chapters policy.

Thanks again to you and your colleagues for your passion to promote OpenID in Japan!

Any chance I'll get to see you at IIW next week?  Hope so!

                                -- Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Nat Sakimura [mailto:n-sakimura at nri.co.jp]
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:58 PM
To: board at openid.net; Mike Jones
Cc: david at sixapart.com
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Might Miss the Call

Hi Mike,

What do you mean by "without language about a national chapters policy."?
You mean dropping the sentence entirely from the Local Chapters Policy?
Then I have not said yes to it.


Mike Jones wrote:
> About the local chapters policy, we have an agreement from Nat and Snorri that they are good with us approving a local chapters policy based on the current drafts and without language about a national chapters policy.  This is significant progress and would let Europe and Japan become local chapters under a recognized policy.  Therefore, I'm going to produce a cleaned-up draft and have us vote on it.  With respect to the IPR, this text isn't a change from our existing approved policy, therefore I don't see this as a blocking issue for approving a local chapters policy that brings everyone into the fold.
> About the specifications council, the report on the PAPE working group is DUE BY SATURDAY.  Therefore waiting until Monday isn't ok.  If Josh has not responded and you try to call him one more time, then you and Johnny should act as the majority and notify the board and Dick and I who the 5 members are today so we can start to work on the report.  We only have 2 days as it is!
> Hope to have you on the call.
>                                 Thanks,
>                                 -- Mike
> -----Original Message-----
> From: board-bounces at openid.net [mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] On Behalf Of David Recordon
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 1:31 AM
> To: board at openid.net
> Subject: [OpenID board] Might Miss the Call
> Hi all,
> I'm currently in Dublin and was planning on making the call via Skype
> though the hotel internet access is quite shoddy.  I'll try to call
> in, but if I don't make it here are my thoughts given the agenda.
> * General business (minutes approved, finance update)
> +1 to approving the last set of minutes
> * Local chapters policy review and vote - Mike Jones
> It sounds like great progress has been made in the latest draft of the
> policy, though given the current discussion it doesn't feel like we're
> quite there yet.  The two outstanding issues seem to be how to deal
> with "national chapters" and the wording around IP in terms of if we
> can allow Creative Commons licensing to make things simpler.  I am not
> in support of approving the current local chapters policy and then
> later writing a national chapters policy.  Instead I think that we
> should have the local chapters policy address local/national chapters
> so that we have one fewer policy.  As it stands I am -1 for approving
> the current local chapters policy.
> * Member election logistics for PAPE working group - Mike Jones
> Not quite sure what this means, if someone is able to clarify before
> the meeting I'll give my thoughts. :)
> * Report from specifications council - ?
> Johnny Bufu and I have reached consensus around the five editor
> appointed people for the specs council.  We're still waiting to hear
> back from Josh.  I pinged him about it yesterday and will do so again
> today.  I'm hopeful that we can be done with the council by our
> meeting Monday though we still need to ask the five people if they're
> willing to be on it.
> * Amended bylaws
> I was on the call last week along with Bill, Mike, Dave, and David
> around amending the bylaws.  I believe there is now a new draft of
> them which I am -1 for approving.  I am not convinced that a forever
> growing board with a small executive committee is the right structure
> for the Foundation.  I'm hoping that we'll be discussing this next
> Monday during the F2F.
> Thanks!
> --David
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Nat Sakimura (=nat)
Nomura Research Institute, Ltd.
XDI.ORG Vice Chair

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