[OpenID board] Agenda for 7/8/2008 ...
Snorri
snorri at snorri.eu
Thu Jul 10 00:38:08 UTC 2008
Dear Mike,
As always, I appreciate your prompt feedback.
You are correct!
However, IMHO, this limitation will only be lifted when certain concrete
actions will have been put in place.
The establishment of an International Board is quite an important task to
accomplish in the next few months--I suggested its creation some time
ago--in my view, it is one of several reforms to be introduced, for several
reasons.
Yes, I do know in Europe 1 or 2 capable people who could run this position.
I have already spoken to them---BTW thanks for having added Nat to the Asian
thread.
Suggestions for helping the OIDF communicate to people that the OIDF's scope
is international, I do not have
rather, concrete actions to be undertaken
very soon, yes, I do have one or two!
Generally, I can confirm to you that what people like me wish for in Europe
goes in the direction of a coming together of OIDE and OIDF that would be
closer than merely the signing of the OIDF Local Chapters Agreement.
I am indeed convinced right now that a rapprochement effort---if it takes
into account what Europeans would like to see, as well as their particular
needs---could be a very positive way to dispel the apparent misperception
that OIDF is first and foremost a "US" Foundation, a “US Members Only” club.
I will come back to you later on these important topics.
As far as the OpenID’09 program goes, I much appreciate what you wrote, your
participation would be a great asset, and I am hoping other OIDF Members
will participate, for this program was created for you and for the
Community, in order to bring actual effective responses to the Board’s new
expectations.
In fact, the OpenID’09 program is for the short term
since the idea of
pulling all together this summer in order to put it in place in
September/October, as soon as possible really, so as to be able to measure
any first concrete results as of January 1, 2009.
I am currently working on it, and I hope to show it to you next week.
I remain at your disposal,
Yours truly,
-Snorri
De : Mike Jones [mailto:Michael.Jones at microsoft.com]
Envoyé : lundi 7 juillet 2008 00:03
À : Snorri
Cc : board at openid.net; Nat Sakimura
Objet : RE: [OpenID board] Agenda for 7/8/2008 ...
The most interesting thing (to me) that you wrote below is this:
As I have already explained, many businesses in Europe and in Asia will
never wish to be (only/directly) members of an US Foundation. This is simply
a reality of the market and a cultural fact.
One of the reasons that we need to have the OIDF board election soon, in
fact, is to dispel the apparent misperception that OIDF is a US Foundation.
If you have that perception, after all, it's understandable that others
would as well. Indeed, OIDF was founded to promote and advance OpenID
worldwide. The OIDF's scope is worldwide -- not US-only.
For that reason, among others, it would be good to have motivated and
capable people elected to the board from all regions of the world. Maybe
you can think about who you would like to encourage to have run from Europe,
Snorri, and maybe Nat can think about who he'd like to encourage to stand
for election from Asia.
Do you have any suggestions, in addition to the election, for helping the
OIDF communicate to people that the OIDF's scope is international?
I also appreciate you working on ideas for the OpenID '09 program, but in
the short term, next obvious step is for OpenID Europe to sign the OIDF
local chapters agreement so that it will be clear that any trademarks held
by OpenID Europe will be usable worldwide. Can you make that happen soon?
Thanks,
-- Mike
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From: board-bounces at openid.net [mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] On Behalf
Of Snorri
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 4:34 AM
To: board at openid.net
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Agenda for 7/8/2008 ...
Importance: High
Hi Dick,
I know perfectly well how members vote within OIDF.
But as I do not know the list of the Members of OIDF—as that list is not
accessible to the public—I cannot tell you if certain members have paid dues
twice, but I would be surprised if they had.
As I have already explained, many businesses in Europe and in Asia will
never wish to be (only/directly) members of an US Foundation. This is simply
a reality of the market and a cultural fact.
These 22 members (I am hoping for a larger number, 80 to 100 in 2009) are to
this day authorized to vote with OIDE. We can hope that in the near future
this would have for them a greater significance than today, in particular
after my recent interviews with the Presidency (France since this week
http://www.ue2008.fr/PFUE/lang/en/accueil) of the European Community which
seem promising. The EU Government would help OpenID, both by initiating a
European normalization process, and by participating in the writing of the
technical specifications.
As I have offered several times to the Board, it would be quite possible to
set in place something large and quite good at the global level, with a
system involving controlled sharing (this is what we are already doing in
Europe with the National Chapters), a system within which each Chapter would
bring in funding for the Foundation (meaning OIDF this time). In this way, a
French company which would become Member of OpenID France, or an Argentinean
business becoming a Member of OpenID Argentina (I use this example since the
OpenID Foundation Argentina is in the process of being incorporated in
Buenos Aires) would automatically also become a Member of OIDF.
Of course a legal and financial organization should be put in place
beforehand.
Once again, all these topics are mentioned in the OpenID’09 program I am
soon to present to the Board and the Community.
I remain, until then, at your disposal
-Snorri
De : board-bounces at openid.net [mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] De la part
de Dick Hardt
Envoyé : samedi 5 juillet 2008 19:46
À : board at openid.net
Objet : Re: [OpenID board] Agenda for 7/8/2008 ...
Hi Snorri
Have they paid OIDF dues? If not, then they are not allowed to vote.
-- Dick
On 5-Jul-08, at 1:45 AM, Snorri wrote:
Gary,
+22 members of OIDE who have paid membership dues.
Regards
-Snorri
De : <mailto:board-bounces at openid.net> board-bounces at openid.net [
<mailto:board-bounces at openid.net> mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] De la
part de Bill Washburn
Envoyé : samedi 5 juillet 2008 04:24
À : <mailto:board at openid.net> board at openid.net
Objet : Re: [OpenID board] Agenda for 7/8/2008 ...
Gary,
There are currently 36 members of OIDF who have paid membership dues.
cheers,
-bill
----- Original Message ----
From: "Krall, Gary" < <mailto:gkrall at verisign.com> gkrall at verisign.com>
To: <mailto:board at openid.net> board at openid.net
Sent: Friday, July 4, 2008 4:32:35 PM
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Agenda for 7/8/2008 ...
Towards that end it might be very helpful to have an update as to the
current Membership list/count.
Thanks,
Gary.
________________________________
From: <mailto:board-bounces at openid.net> board-bounces at openid.net on behalf
of Mike Jones
Sent: Thu 7/3/2008 3:17 PM
To: <mailto:board at openid.net> board at openid.net
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Agenda for 7/8/2008 ...
I'd also like to have a discussion on when we're going to have the board
election. Bill told me in private conversation that the contractors may be
within days of enabling people to vote with their OpenIDs, which was the
gating factor that delayed the election when we talked about it several
months ago. I'd put this before the scope discussion in the agenda order.
Thanks,
-- Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: <mailto:board-bounces at openid.net> board-bounces at openid.net [mailto:
<mailto:board-bounces at openid.net> board-bounces at openid.net] On Behalf Of
Scott Kveton
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:12 PM
To: <mailto:board at openid.net> board at openid.net
Subject: [OpenID board] Agenda for 7/8/2008 ...
Hey Everybody,
Note: the call is at 10am PST on 7/8.
Agenda:
* General business (minutes approved, finance update)
* Statements about the nature of reciprocal IPR commitments to working
groups - Mike
* Discussion on future scope of OpenID Foundation - Everyone
* Additional items?
OIDF Conference Call
Call-in number provided by IBM - Tony Nadalin
TOLL: 517-386-9613
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- Scott
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