[OpenID board] CONTRIBUTION AGREEMENT

Bill Washburn billhwashburn at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 27 18:54:46 UTC 2008


Thanks Tom,

It's definitely on the "must get done" list...

-bill

----- Original Message ----
From: tom calthrop <tom at barnraiser.org>
To: board at openid.net
Cc: "david at sixapart.com" <david at sixapart.com>; Nat Sakimura <n-sakimura at nri.co.jp>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:31:14 AM
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] CONTRIBUTION AGREEMENT


Hi 
All,

I 
can't 
help 
but 
feel 
that 
this 
maybe 
a 
good 
moment 
to 
consider 
a 
"Frequently 
asked 
questions" 
section 
on 
the 
web 
site. 
The 
question 
of 
whether 
you 
need 
a 
contribution 
agreement  
may 
have 
a 
habit 
of 
repeating 
itself;)

Tom


Mike 
Jones 
wrote:
> 
You're 
confusing 
two 
things.  
The 
procedures 
allow 
anyone 
to 
*implement* 
OpenID 
specifications 
without 
signing 
anything.  
Period.  
Nothing 
to 
do 
there.
>
> 
However, 
the 
procedures 
require 
contributors 
to 
sign 
a 
contributor 
agreement 
to 
participate 
in 
creating 
*new 
specifications*.  
This 
is 
completely 
different 
thing.
>
> 
Beyond 
making 
sure 
that 
this 
information 
is 
clear 
to 
your 
members, 
I 
don't 
believe 
that 
there's 
anything 
that 
OIDE 
needs 
to 
do 
here.
>
>  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
Cheers,
>  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
-- 
Mike
>
> 
-----Original 
Message-----
> 
From: 
board-bounces at openid.net 
[mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] 
On 
Behalf 
Of 
Snorri
> 
Sent: 
Wednesday, 
February 
27, 
2008 
10:16 
AM
> 
To: 
board at openid.net; 
david at sixapart.com
> 
Cc: 
'Nat 
Sakimura'
> 
Subject: 
Re: 
[OpenID 
board] 
CONTRIBUTION 
AGREEMENT
>
> 
Important: 
actually, 
many 
companies/websites 
are 
implemented 
OpenID 
without 
read 
juridical 
documents 
(because 
they 
didn't 
know 
that 
exist)
>
> 
At 
OIDE 
we 
think 
to 
propose 
soon:
>
> 
A 
form 
with 
process 
during 
is 
necessary 
to 
read 
all 
document 
(contributor, 
Members, 
Bylaw, 
IPR...) 
and 
accept 
a 
"box" 
exactly 
like 
a 
"Terms 
of 
Service/use" 
during 
the 
inscription 
on 
one 
website.
>
> 
After 
manual 
verification 
(who 
is?) 
and 
all 
documents 
are 
sent 
within 
48 
hours 
(in 
PDF 
and 
is 
necessary 
to 
sign 
it).
>
> 
What 
do 
you 
think?
>
> 
-Snorri
>
> 
-----Message 
d'origine-----
> 
De 
: 
board-bounces at openid.net 
[mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] 
De 
la 
part 
de 
Nat 
Sakimura
> 
Envoyé 
: 
mercredi 
27 
février 
2008 
05:09
> 
À 
: 
david at sixapart.com; 
board at openid.net
> 
Objet 
: 
Re: 
[OpenID 
board] 
CONTRIBUTION 
AGREEMENT
>
> 
Hi.
>
> 
So 
does 
this 
mean 
that 
there 
is 
no 
document 
to 
sign 
to 
be 
Contributor?
> 
How 
do 
you 
know 
that 
one 
has 
agreed 
to 
the 
IPR 
policy?
> 
(Note: 
a 
contributor 
does 
not 
even 
need 
to 
be 
a 
member.)
>
> 
Regards,
>
> 
=nat
>
> 
08/02/27 
に 
David 
Recordon<drecordon at sixapart.com> 
さんは書きました:
>  
 
>> 
This 
is 
outlined 
in 
the 
IPR 
Process: 
http://openid.net/ipr/OpenID_Process_Document_(Final_Clean_20071221).pdf
>>  
.  
It 
wouldn't 
hurt 
to 
streamline 
it 
into 
an 
easy 
to 
follow 
page 
or
>>  
something 
though.
>>
>>
>>  
--David
>>
>>
>>  
On 
Feb 
26, 
2008, 
at 
9:05 
AM, 
Drummond 
Reed 
wrote:
>>
>>  
> 
I 
agree 
with 
Nat 
-- 
the 
Contribution 
Agreements 
all 
work 
in 
the
>>  
> 
past. 
How
>>  
> 
specifically 
does 
a 
new 
working 
group 
start 
its 
work 
and 
obtain
>>  
> 
contribution
>>  
> 
agreements 
for 
new 
work 
going 
forward?
>>  
>
>>  
> 
This 
is 
fairly 
urgent 
topic 
as 
Nat 
and 
others 
want 
to 
propose 
new
>>  
> 
work 
and
>>  
> 
get 
started.
>>  
>
>>  
> 
Scott, 
can 
you 
add 
that 
to 
the 
agenda 
for 
this 
Thursday's 
board
>>  
> 
telecon?
>>  
>
>>  
> 
Thanks,
>>  
>
>>  
> 
=Drummond
>>  
>
>>  
>> 
-----Original 
Message-----
>>  
>> 
From: 
board-bounces at openid.net 
[mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] 
On
>>  
>> 
Behalf
>>  
>> 
Of 
Nat 
Sakimura
>>  
>> 
Sent: 
Saturday, 
February 
23, 
2008 
7:49 
PM
>>  
>> 
To: 
board at openid.net
>>  
>> 
Cc: 
general at openid.net
>>  
>> 
Subject: 
Re: 
[OpenID 
board] 
CONTRIBUTION 
AGREEMENT
>>  
>>
>>  
>> 
Since 
this 
mail 
is 
rather 
long, 
here 
is 
the 
excecutive 
summary.
>>  
>>
>>  
>> 
(0) 
I 
want 
to 
start 
contributing 
and 
thus 
sign 
the 
contribution
>>  
>> 
agreement.
>>  
>> 
(1) 
The 
current 
non-assertion 
agreement 
is 
only 
for 
the 
works 
of
>>  
>> 
the 
past.
>>  
>> 
(2) 
Therefore, 
it 
does 
not 
work 
for 
the 
new 
contributions 
on 
a 
new
>>  
>> 
work
>>  
>> 
group.
>>  
>> 
(3) 
Which 
document 
shall 
I 
sign 
for 
making 
contributions?
>>  
>>
>>  
>> 
Following 
is 
the 
detail:
>>  
>>
>>  
>> 
http://openid.net/ipr/Non-Assertion-
>>  
>> 
Agreement/OpenID_IP_Contribution_Agreement_(Entities)_20071205.pdf
>>  
>>
>>  
>> 
The 
document 
is 
specifically 
for 
the 
Specifications 
which 
is 
defined
>>  
>> 
as 
in 
section 
1 
(g)
>>  
>>
>>  
>> 
(g) 
"Specifications"  
means  
solely  
the  
indicated  
versions  
of
>>  
>> 
the
>>  
>> 
following  
documents  
(each  
of  
which,  
as  
of  
the
>>  
>> 
Effective  
Date,  
is  
located  
at  
the  
indicated  
URL):  
(i) 
OpenID
>>  
>> 
Authentication  
1.1  
(http://openid.net/specs/openid‐
>>  
>> 
authentication‐1_1.html);;  
(ii) 
OpenID  
Simple  
Registration
>>  
>> 
Extension  
1.0  
(http://openid.net/specs/openid‐simple‐
>>  
>> 
registration‐extension‐1_0.html);;  
(iii) 
OpenID
>>  
>> 
Authentication  
2.0
>>  
>> 
-  
Implementer's  
Draft  
12
>>  
>> 
(http://openid.net/specs/openid‐authentication‐
>>  
>> 
2_0‐12.html);  
(v)
>>  
>> 
Yadis  
Discovery  
Protocol  
1.0
>>  
>> 
(http://yadis.org/papers/yadis‐v1.0.pdf);  
and  
(vi) 
OpenID
>>  
>> 
Attribute
>>  
>> 
Exchange  
-  
Draft  
8
>>  
>> 
(http://openid.net/specs/openid‐attribute‐
>>  
>> 
exchange‐1_0‐08.html).
>>  
>>
>>  
>> 
Moreover, 
"Contribution" 
is 
defined 
in 
section 
1(a) 
as
>>  
>>
>>  
>> 
(a) 
"Contributions"  
means  
any  
written  
communication  
made  
by  
or
>>  
>> 
on  
behalf  
of  
Contributor  
before  
the  
Effective 
Date 
and 
intended
>>  
>> 
for 
inclusion 
in 
a 
Specification.
>>  
>>
>>  
>> 
Note 
that 
Effective 
Date 
is 
the 
date 
of 
signing 
this 
agreement.
>>  
>>
>>  
>> 
So 
it 
does 
not 
include 
the 
future 
proposed 
specification 
at 
all, 
from
>>  
>> 
what 
I 
see.
>>  
>> 
To 
this 
extent, 
I 
do 
not 
think 
this 
agreement 
can 
be 
used 
to 
initiate
>>  
>> 
a 
new 
Work 
Group 
specified 
in 
the 
spec. 
process 
document. 
In 
fact,
>>  
>> 
none 
of 
us, 
including 
those 
who 
have 
signed 
this 
contribution
>>  
>> 
agreement 
can 
start 
contributing 
for 
new 
things 
at 
all, 
if 
my
>>  
>> 
interpretation 
is 
right 
(and 
I 
think 
I 
am 
right.)
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>> 
=nat
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>> 
2008/2/20, 
Nat 
Sakimura 
<n-sakimura at nri.co.jp>:
>>  
>>> 
Hi 
all:
>>  
>>>
>>  
>>> 
I 
have 
looked 
at:
>>  
>>> 
http://openid.net/ipr/Non-Assertion-
>>  
>> 
Agreement/OpenID_IP_Contribution_Agreement_(Entities)_20071205.pdf
>>  
>>>
>>  
>>> 
Looks 
like 
it 
is 
not 
the 
general 
case. 
(If 
I 
am 
not 
reading 
it
>>  
>>> 
wrong,
>>  
>> 
it
>>  
>>> 
only 
covers 
"the 
Specifications")
>>  
>>>
>>  
>>> 
If 
I 
were 
to 
start 
a 
WG 
process, 
the 
contributors 
need 
to 
submit
>>  
>>> 
Contribution 
Agreement 
as 
par 
IPR 
Policy. 
Which 
particular 
document
>>  
>>> 
should 
I 
submit?
>>  
>>>
>>  
>>> 
Regards,
>>  
>>>
>>  
>>>
>>  
>>> 
--
>>  
>>> 
Nat 
Sakimura 
(=nat)
>>  
>>> 
Nomura 
Research 
Institute, 
Ltd.
>>  
>>>
>>  
>>> 
_______________________________________________
>>  
>>> 
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mailing 
list
>>  
>>> 
board at openid.net
>>  
>>> 
http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board
>>  
>>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>> 
--
>>  
>> 
Nat 
Sakimura 
(=nat)
>>  
>> 
http://www.sakimura.org/en/
>>  
>
>>  
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>
> 
--
> 
Nat 
Sakimura 
(=nat)
> 
http://www.sakimura.org/en/
> 
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