[OpenID board] OpenID Foundation and Japan

Tue Feb 12 01:46:06 UTC 2008

+1

(one Latin American perception...)

On Feb 11, 2008 7:30 PM, Raj Mata <rajmata at yahoo-inc.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> I guess, I did not send my earlier reply to the entire board list - so
> re-sending.
>
> I agree with Seki-San, and in my experience with such organizations,
> having one global legal entity with local chapters (not legally
> incorporated!) as necessary works best! This avoids
> duplication/fragmentation of activity (both technical and
> non-technical), but yet preserves the localization aspects through the
> local chapters!
>
> Raj
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: board-bounces at openid.net [mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] On
> Behalf Of Krall, Gary
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:23 PM
> To: board at openid.net; david at sixapart.com
> Cc: Sakimura Nat; Kentaro Sakamoto
> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] OpenID Foundation and Japan
>
> Seki-san:
>
> In your comments below you say:  "...and some major ID providers, such
> as Microsoft Japan..."  I personally am very familiar with the work
> being done at the other sites you mentioned but I was unaware of any
> specific activities of a Microsoft service in Japan around OpenID.
>
> Could you expand upon that a bit?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: board-bounces at openid.net [mailto:board-bounces at openid.net]On
> Behalf Of Nobuhiro Seki
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 3:30 PM
> To: david at sixapart.com
> Cc: Sakimura Nat; board at openid.net; Kentaro Sakamoto
> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] OpenID Foundation and Japan
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am Nob Seki, General Manager of Six Apart for Japan. Let me give you a
>
> quick overview of the market.
>
> Adoption of OpenID in Japan is almost as quick as that in the US, so it
> is great if we can show some momentum to the Japanese market. The
> biggest ID provider, Yahoo Japan, announced the adoption of OpenID on
> the same day of the announcement of Yahoo!, Inc, and some major ID
> providers, such as Microsoft Japan, Livedoor and Hatena, already support
>
> OpenID. (Google's Blogger does not have big presence in the Japanese
> market -- yet ;-)
>
> Especially after the corporate board was established at OIDF last week,
> big attention to OpenID has been made in the Japanese market, so it
> would be great if we do something soon in the market. FYI, David will
> come to Tokyo in the week of Feb 25, so we may have a press conference
> describing the general principle of OIDF to the rest of the world then.
>
> Me personally likes Option 2 (no legal entity but a virtual chapter of
> OIDF) because (a) it is easy and quick, (b) Japanese providers do not
> have to take part in two entities (OIDF and its Japanese entity), and
> (c) clear affiliation b/w OIDF and Japanese providers is made
> (contribution should be made to OIDF, not its Japanese entity if
> established).
>
> That's my personal thought, so please feel free to discuss further!
> Thanks,
> Nob Seki (nseki at sixapart.jp)
> Six Apart, Ltd.
>
> David Recordon wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I'm trying to bring together a few different threads of conversation
> > around formalizing OpenID in Japan.  Six Apart KK, NRI, and VeriSign
> > KK have been speaking for the past few months about the desire to both
>
> > protect OpenID intellectual property in Japan as well as having an
> > organization to promote and encourage adoption of OpenID via.  So far
> > there seem to be a few possibilities (feel free to correct me if I'm
> > wrong):
> >  1) Do not establish any legal entity or formal recognition of members
>
> > of the OpenID Foundation from Japan
> >  2) Do not establish a legal entity in Japan but somehow recognize
> > members of the OpenID Foundation from Japan
> >  3) Establish a legal entity in Japan which is not formally part of
> > the OpenID Foundation, but is recognized like OpenID Europe Foundation
> >  4) Establish a legal entity in Japan which is formally a part of the
> > OpenID Foundation (eg Mozilla Europe)
> >
> > Obviously there are various pros and cons to each choice, though we
> > should also remember that the decision here will most likely dictate
> > the outcome of future similar scenarios.  I'd be especially interested
>
> > in the views of the multi-national companies especially those also
> > working with OpenID internationally.
> >
> > --David
> >
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