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directly proportional to the energy that the chapter coordinator(s) put into
it.  So the key thing is to find people with drive, organizational skills,
and time to make these happen.

 

                                                Cheers,

                                                -- Mike

 

  _____  

From: board-bounces at openid.net [mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] On Behalf
Of Bill Washburn
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:58 AM
To: Nat Sakimura; board at openid.net
Cc: Ishikawa, Kazuya; Kentaro Sakamoto; Nobuhiro Seki; david at sixapart.com;
Bill Washburn
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] OpenID Foundation and Japan

 

Hi Nat,

Thanks for this report.  An excellent beginning, it seems clear.  I realize
that very likely we might do well to start considering a few regional
chapters in North America this year: 
Silicon Valley/San Francisco Bay Area, 
Portland/Seattle/Vancouver,
Oklahoma/Texas
Boston/New York/Washington, D.C.
???

okay, it's getting late...

cheers,
-bill

----- Original Message ----
From: Nat Sakimura <n-sakimura at nri.co.jp>
To: "board at openid.net" <board at openid.net>; Bill Washburn
<billhwashburn at yahoo.com>
Cc: Kentaro Sakamoto <k-sakamoto at verisign.co.jp>; "Krall, Gary"
<gkrall at verisign.com>; "david at sixapart.com" <david at sixapart.com>; "Ishikawa,
Kazuya" <k-ishikawa at verisign.co.jp>; Nobuhiro Seki <nseki at sixapart.jp>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 9:36:10 PM
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] OpenID Foundation and Japan

All-

We had a very productive meeting this morning in Tokyo, with Seki-san of 
SixApart, Sakamoto-san and Ishikawa-san of Verisign Japan and myself 
(from Nomura Research Institute, and XDI.ORG).

Among other things, here are our concensus:

1. Japanese organization should start as the Japan Chapter of OpenID 
Foundation.
    (i.e., no legal entity but a virtual chapter of OIDF as Seki-san 
suggested in
  the previous mail.). Thus, to join Japan Chapter, it has to be a 
member of
  OIDF, thus policies around IPR, trademark, membership, etc would also 
apply to
  them.

  Its primary purpose includes:
  - Promotion of OpenID in Japan through:
      - Preparation of Japanese translation of the SPECs.
      - Preparation of Introductory Materials to End users explaining
          - How to use OpenID
          - Why using OpenID is good.
      - Establishing working groups to discuss issues including 
Japanese specific ones.
      - Press Relations
  - Feedback to OpenID Foundation on the findings and requests from 
Japanese market.

2. We should target at annoucing it on Feb.28, when David comes to Japan.
    Outline of the proposed announcement is being prepared right now.

3. For this to happen, obviously, we need OpenID Foundation's endorsment.
    Also, OIDF's assistance to encourage Japanese entities of those 
Corporate Board
    comapnies to join Japan Chapter is sought.

4. In pararell to 3. , we start recruiting the Japanese members.

Bill, if the boards are ok with these, could you kindly follow up 
especially with
item 3. above, please?

Regards,

--
Nat Sakimura (=nat)
http://www.sakimura.org/en/

 


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face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
board-bounces at openid.net [mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mike Jones<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February =
12, 2008
9:52 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> board at openid.net; Nat =
Sakimura<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Ishikawa, Kazuya; =
Kentaro
Sakamoto; david at sixapart.com; Bill Washburn; Nobuhiro Seki<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [OpenID =
board] OpenID
Foundation and Japan</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I'll also endorse the local =
chapters idea,
as that has worked well for USENIX's SAGE class of members, for =
instance.&nbsp;
I would oppose creating separate legal entities for chapters for a lot =
of the
reasons already stated in this thread, but it sounds like the consensus =
is
already to go with a chapters model, with all the members worldwide =
being
members of OIDF.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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value a local chapters is almost directly proportional to the energy =
that the
chapter coordinator(s) put into it. &nbsp;So the key thing is to find =
people
with drive, organizational skills, and time to make these =
happen.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font =
size=3D2
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> =
board-bounces at openid.net
[mailto:board-bounces at openid.net] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On =
Behalf
Of </span></b><st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">Bill =
Washburn</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February =
12, 2008
12:58 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Nat Sakimura; =
<st1:PersonName
w:st=3D"on">board at openid.net</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Ishikawa, Kazuya; =
Kentaro
Sakamoto; Nobuhiro Seki; <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">david at sixapart.com</st1:PersonName>;
<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">Bill Washburn</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [OpenID =
board] OpenID
Foundation and <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Japan</st1:place></st1:country-region></span></font><o:p></o:=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Bookman Old Style"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style"'>Hi
Nat,<br>
<br>
Thanks for this report.&nbsp; An excellent beginning, it seems =
clear.&nbsp; I
realize that very likely we might do well to start considering a few =
regional
chapters in <st1:place w:st=3D"on">North America</st1:place> this year: =
<br>
Silicon Valley/San Francisco Bay Area, <br>
Portland/Seattle/Vancouver,<br>
Oklahoma/Texas<br>
<st1:City w:st=3D"on">Boston</st1:City>/New York/<st1:place =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:City
 w:st=3D"on">Washington</st1:City>, <st1:State =
w:st=3D"on">D.C.</st1:State></st1:place><br>
???<br>
<br>
okay, it's getting late...<br>
<br>
cheers,<br>
-bill<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>----- Original =
Message
----<br>
From: Nat Sakimura &lt;n-sakimura at nri.co.jp&gt;<br>
To: &quot;<st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">board at openid.net</st1:PersonName>&quot;
&lt;<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">board at openid.net</st1:PersonName>&gt;; =
<st1:PersonName
w:st=3D"on">Bill Washburn</st1:PersonName> &lt;<st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">billhwashburn at yahoo.com</st1:PersonName>&gt;<br>
Cc: Kentaro Sakamoto &lt;k-sakamoto at verisign.co.jp&gt;; &quot;Krall, =
Gary&quot;
&lt;gkrall at verisign.com&gt;; &quot;<st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">david at sixapart.com</st1:PersonName>&quot;
&lt;<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">david at sixapart.com</st1:PersonName>&gt;;
&quot;Ishikawa, Kazuya&quot; &lt;k-ishikawa at verisign.co.jp&gt;; Nobuhiro =
Seki
&lt;nseki at sixapart.jp&gt;<br>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 9:36:10 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] OpenID Foundation and <st1:country-region =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place
 w:st=3D"on">Japan</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
<br>
All-<br>
<br>
We had a very productive meeting this morning in <st1:City =
w:st=3D"on">Tokyo</st1:City>,
with Seki-san of <br>
SixApart, Sakamoto-san and Ishikawa-san of Verisign <st1:country-region =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place
 w:st=3D"on">Japan</st1:place></st1:country-region> and myself <br>
(from Nomura Research Institute, and <a href=3D"http://XDI.ORG" =
target=3D"_blank">XDI.ORG</a>).<br>
<br>
Among other things, here are our concensus:<br>
<br>
1. Japanese organization should start as the Japan Chapter of OpenID =
<br>
Foundation.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; (i.e., no legal entity but a virtual chapter of OIDF as =
Seki-san <br>
suggested in<br>
&nbsp; the previous mail.). Thus, to join Japan Chapter, it has to be a =
<br>
member of<br>
&nbsp; OIDF, thus policies around IPR, trademark, membership, etc would =
also <br>
apply to<br>
&nbsp; them.<br>
<br>
&nbsp; Its primary purpose includes:<br>
&nbsp; - Promotion of OpenID in <st1:country-region =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Japan</st1:place></st1:country-region>
through:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; - Preparation of Japanese translation of the =
SPECs.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; - Preparation of Introductory Materials to End =
users
explaining<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; - How to use OpenID<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; - Why using OpenID is good.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; - Establishing working groups to discuss issues =
including <br>
Japanese specific ones.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; - Press Relations<br>
&nbsp; - Feedback to OpenID Foundation on the findings and requests from =
<br>
Japanese market.<br>
<br>
2. We should target at annoucing it on Feb.28, when David comes to =
<st1:country-region
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Japan</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Outline of the proposed announcement is being prepared =
right now.<br>
<br>
3. For this to happen, obviously, we need OpenID Foundation's =
endorsment.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Also, OIDF's assistance to encourage Japanese entities of =
those <br>
Corporate Board<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; comapnies to join Japan Chapter is sought.<br>
<br>
4. In pararell to 3. , we start recruiting the Japanese members.<br>
<br>
Bill, if the boards are ok with these, could you kindly follow up <br>
especially with<br>
item 3. above, please?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
--<br>
Nat Sakimura (=3Dnat)<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.sakimura.org/en/" =
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